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Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls

From "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls
Date 2014-03-20 13:22 -0600
Organization solani.org
Message-ID <5520#18956@usenet.squte.com> (permalink)
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There's a lot of speculation on /. about what prompted this. 

The original thread that sparked this is here: 
<http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2014/Mar/123> 

There  is a summary on reddit here : 
<http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/20sxd2/full_disclosure_mailing_list_closes/cg6fbgk> 

which has this summary 

>     Nicholas Lemonias posts the file upload bug disclosure and info about his exchange 
> with Google. 
>     Initial responses question whether it's really a security issue and probe for 
> more info. 
>     Lemonias responds, stating that he hasn't found a way to get the uploaded files 
> back. 
>     More people respond saying it's not a bug. 
>     Lemonias gets defensive. 
>     More people wade into the discussion, mainly on the dissenting side. 
>     Lemonias tries to justify his position by making claims about his education 
> and the companies he works for. 
>     People don't buy it, some trolling ensues. 
>     Couple of unknowns appear in support of Lemonias. 
>     Sockpuppetry accusations (can't remember whether this was on FD or elsewhere) 
>     Whole thread dissolves into petty arguments and trolling. 

at which point Nicholas Lemonias apparently sent takedown requests to the list admin 
(John Cartwright) demanding archives of the thread be removed. John Cartwright couldn't 
be bothered with the legal hassle so shut the list instead. 

As John Cartwright said: 

> It's getting harder to operate an open forum in today's legal climate 


If only it had been on Usenet instead. 

see also <https://twitter.com/nicholemonias> 







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regards
~tdk
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Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-20 13:20 +0000
  Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-03-20 13:22 -0600
    Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-20 20:17 +0000
      Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-20 20:23 +0000
      Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls john <nospam@no.net> - 2014-03-20 13:32 -0800
        Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls Rich <rich@example.com> - 2014-03-20 23:20 +0000
        Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-21 01:08 +0100
          Usenet clients: knode, other RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-21 09:03 +0000
            Re: Usenet clients: knode, other Conceited Jerk <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> - 2014-03-21 07:58 -0500
              Re: Usenet clients: knode, other Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@des.no> - 2014-03-21 15:26 +0100
                Re: Usenet clients: knode, other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-21 18:03 +0000
                20 Years of September (was Re: Usenet clients: knode, other) RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-21 20:52 +0000
                Re: 20 Years of September (was Re: Usenet clients: knode, other) Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@des.no> - 2014-03-22 02:02 +0100
                Re: 20 Years of September Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2014-03-29 16:47 +0200
                Re: 20 Years of September (was Re: Usenet clients: knode, other) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-23 15:07 +0000
                Re: 20 Years of September (was Re: Usenet clients: knode, other) RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-23 16:10 +0000
                Re: Usenet clients: knode, other Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-21 21:47 +0000
                Re: Usenet clients: knode, other Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-22 10:46 +0100
                Re: Usenet clients: knode, other Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-22 12:36 +0000
              Re: Usenet clients: knode, other "G. Paul Ziemba" <paul+usenet@w6yx.stanford.edu> - 2014-03-21 16:15 +0000
            Re: Usenet clients: knode, other john <nospam@no.net> - 2014-03-25 11:34 -0800
            Re: Usenet clients: knode, other Shehu Dikko <unreachable@destination.invalid> - 2014-04-04 13:36 +0000
              Re: Usenet clients: knode, other Shehu Dikko <unreachable@destination.invalid> - 2014-04-04 14:03 +0000
                Re: Usenet clients: knode, other RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-04-04 15:14 +0000
                Re: Usenet clients: knode, other Shehu Dikko <unreachable@destination.invalid> - 2014-04-05 10:25 +0000
          Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls Chris Elvidge <chris@raspberrypi.mshome.net> - 2014-03-21 09:41 +0000
            Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-21 10:04 +0000
            Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-21 11:38 +0100
            Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls Rich <rich@example.com> - 2014-03-21 15:23 +0000
            Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-21 18:01 +0000
              Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2014-03-21 14:26 -0700
                Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-03-22 03:06 +0000
                Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-03-22 12:34 +0000
                Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls "John" <j@j.j> - 2014-03-25 08:54 -0700
        Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls Philip Shaw <jnufcvyvuc@tznvy.pbz> - 2014-04-02 03:21 +0000
    Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-20 20:22 +0000
      Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-20 22:50 +0000
        Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-21 09:22 +0000
  Re: Full Disclosure mailing list buried by trolls wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 19:50 +0000

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