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Re: C program. run time abend, range fault. Is this the correct solution?

From James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: C program. run time abend, range fault. Is this the correct solution?
Date 2015-01-06 15:47 -0500
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On 01/06/2015 03:32 PM, Shiva wrote:
> 
>> Since the behavior on overflow is undefined, "should have abended"
>> doesn't apply. It could, for instance, have continued after setting
> 
> I didn't quite catch this point.

That's partly because it's subtle, but mostly because I forgot to finish
the sentence - sorry!

"It could, for instance, have continued calculations after setting the
result to any arbitrary convenient value, without abending. Another
option is that a signal might have been raised, and that you could
register a signal handler to deal with that signal."

The point is, "should have abended" makes an unjustified assumption
about what will happen when there's overflow. The best thing to do avoid
overflow, rather than relying upon unjustified assumptions about what
will happen when overflow occurs.

...
> The following are your 66th and 67th iterations.
> 
>> A:2.30404e+06 pN:12 F1:4.46802e-77 pF:0 F2:1 z1:2.30404e+06 pB:73.45 z2:3.18788e-05 pA:2000 pC:0 pD:0 z3:-2000 
>> A:2.9241e+06 pN:12 F1:2.5591e-78 pF:0 F2:1 z1:2.9241e+06 pB:73.45 z2:2.51188e-05 pA:2000 pC:0 pD:0 z3:-2000
> 
> Though you did the same e-77 for your 66th iteration. My F1 value was
> 2.189569e-77 and yours 4.45802e-77. For the moment, I couldn't
> explain the difference in those values but they seem to be very much
> near. ...

With A==2.30404e+06 pN==12, 4.46802e-77 is the correct value for F1,
that's easy to confirm by breaking it up into 2.30404^(-12)*1e6^(-12).
If you're getting anything else, that's a side-effect of running into
the limits of the capabilities of your floating point implementation.

> ... Now I think some gentle man pointed out
> a way for me to figure out the DBL_MAX and DBL_MIN values in my
> system?

#include <stdio.h>
#include <float.h>
int main(void)
{
    printf("DBL_MIN:%g DBL_MAX:%g\n", DBL_MIN, DBL_MAX);
    return 0;
}

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C program. run time abend, range fault. Shiva <subramanian.klu@gmail.com> - 2014-12-16 00:47 -0800
  Re: C program. run time abend, range fault. jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2014-12-16 10:31 +0000
    Re: C program. run time abend, range fault. Shiva <subramanian.klu@gmail.com> - 2014-12-16 11:33 -0800
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        Re: C program. run time abend, range fault. Is this the correct solution? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-12-31 13:07 -0800
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