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Re: On length contraction and the length contraction paradox

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Odd Bodkin wrote:

> On 7/25/2015 7:40 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Again, it was not debated that effects of special relativity come into
>> play even at relative speeds we can observe in everyday life.  Instead,
>> your use and understanding of “relativistic speed” was debated.  For if
>> you are saying that everything moves “at relativistic speed”, even
>> current “man-made interplanetary probes” which move at less than a
>> thousandth of the speed of light in vacuum (c), then the term
>> “relativistic speed” does not have a meaning different from “speed”, and
>> “relativistic speed” can be dropped without loss from the vocabulary of
>> science, which avoids any duplicates and ambiguities.
> 
> That is EXACTLY the point.

It is exactly *my* point; not yours.

> As you said, relativistic speeds are those speeds that come into play, and
> those are speeds that occur in everyday life.

I said the exact opposite.  Because in everyday life (that is, the life of 
the *average* person, unaware of relativity) the effects predicted by 
special and general relativity are *present* *but* *not* *significant*, and 
the relative speeds there are *too low* for them to become significant, i.e. 
noticeable by those people (without instruments).

> Therefore there IS NO line of demarcation between "relativistic
> speed" and "speed".

Utter nonsense.  And I am tired of explaining to you why.

> [tl;dr]


PointedEars
-- 
“Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
 testing your knowledge means everything.”
   —Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
    in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)

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Re: On length contraction and the length contraction paradox udr310515@gmail.com - 2015-07-04 17:19 -0700
  Re: On length contraction and the length contraction paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2015-07-04 17:32 -0700
    Re: On length contraction and the length contraction paradox udr310515@gmail.com - 2015-07-04 17:40 -0700
      Re: On length contraction and the length contraction paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2015-07-04 18:19 -0700
        Re: On length contraction and the length contraction paradox Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 19:18 +0200
        Re: On length contraction and the length contraction paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 08:05 -0500
          Re: On length contraction and the length contraction paradox Fritz Köhler <fritzk@notrenetwork.net> - 2015-07-25 16:41 +0000
          Re: On length contraction and the length contraction paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 12:44 -0500
            Re: On length contraction and the length contraction paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-25 21:40 +0200
              Re: On length contraction and the length contraction paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-07-25 20:30 -0500
              Re: On length contraction and the length contraction paradox Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 23:50 -0700
                Re: On length contraction and the length contraction paradox Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 17:24 -0700
                Re: On length contraction and the length contraction paradox Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-07-28 13:33 +0200
              Re: On length contraction and the length contraction paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 09:38 -0500

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