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Re: back from the brink

Date 2015-04-11 17:19 -0400
From Paul F Austin <pfaustin@bellsouth.net>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.ipad, comp.sys.mac.apps, rec.travel.europe, soc.history.medieval
Subject Re: back from the brink
References (3 earlier) <conmorF4hngU1@mid.individual.net> <slrnmidctl.9pt.g.kreme@amelia.local> <conrgmF5hdpU1@mid.individual.net> <8vidnQinf8SfQ7vInZ2dnUU7-VmdnZ2d@supernews.com> <1m2nykl.1jptbiqjlxkafN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
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On 4/9/2015 8:06 PM, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> Paul F Austin <pfaustin@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/9/2015 1:34 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2015-04-09, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I love how s/he/it blame Yosemite for s/he/it's fuckup.
>>>
>>> A bad workman always blames his tools.
>>>
>> It's remarkable how defensive the iCrowd gets about catastrophes. I've
>> lost things and it's awful. Since I'm a computer engineer, I have the
>> knowledge to indulge my obsession with backups. For (computer) laymen,
>> the loss of data varies from a PITA to life-changing crisis.
>>
>> Erilar, you have my sympathy.
>> Paul
>
> As a computer engineer I would have thought such disasters were entirely
> preventable by keeping backups and even the old computer around...
>

That depends on how stupid you are. I have a friend who has a twenty 
year old Mac that holds some data that she thinks is invaluable. The 
kink is, she forgot the password and can't get into it. For twenty years.

The same person, proud of her keyboard shortcuts, intended to blow away 
a folder by <Shift Del>, eliminating the copy to the recycle bin. 
Instead, she hit <some more keys plus Shift Del> and blew away the 
entire branch _except_ the folder she had selected. Of course, she could 
have recovered them with any number of file recovery tools but she 
didn't know how.

_Nobody_ should ever do <Shift Del>. The recycle bin covers a multitude 
of errors.

Paul

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back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 14:00 +0000
  Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 10:06 -0400
    Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 02:47 +1300
    Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 15:56 +0000
      Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-09 16:13 +0000
        Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 17:14 +0000
          Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-09 17:34 +0000
            Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
            Re: back from the brink Paul F Austin <pfaustin@bellsouth.net> - 2015-04-09 16:15 -0400
              Re: back from the brink Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-10 08:56 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000
              Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:39 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-10 11:50 +0000
                Re: back from the brink "D. Spencer Hines" <d_spencerhines@america.com> - 2015-05-09 13:12 -1000
              Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 13:06 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Paul F Austin <pfaustin@bellsouth.net> - 2015-04-11 17:19 -0400
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-12 14:09 +1300
                Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 22:23 -0400
                Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 07:56 -0700
                Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:16 -0400
                Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 08:24 -0700
                Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:33 -0400
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-12 15:52 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 16:57 +0100
                Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 10:28 -0700
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 19:14 +0100
                Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:47 -0700
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-12 23:37 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-13 15:01 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-13 05:32 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-13 10:15 +0100
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-14 10:39 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-13 13:48 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-14 10:40 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-14 09:30 +0100
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-14 21:16 +1200
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-14 22:15 +1300
                Re: back from the brink dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 21:57 +1000
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-15 13:12 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-14 12:51 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-15 11:04 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-14 23:10 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-15 21:56 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 12:53 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 09:15 +1200
                Re: back from the brink dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-16 08:02 +1000
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 22:49 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 12:38 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-16 13:29 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-17 10:34 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-16 23:10 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-15 18:02 +0100
                Re: back from the brink "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2015-04-15 21:31 +0100
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 09:16 +1200
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-16 17:28 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 21:30 +1200
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-13 08:49 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-12 09:58 +0000
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-13 00:06 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 14:41 +0000
              Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-05-10 02:45 +0000
          Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
        Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
          Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-09 21:39 +0000
            Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
              Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
              Re: back from the brink Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2015-04-10 13:45 +0100
      Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 12:46 -0400
      Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-09 12:44 -0500
        Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
          Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 17:08 -0400
            Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000
              Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 17:23 -0400
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
                Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
                Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-10 17:30 -0500
                Re: back from the brink Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 18:55 -0400
                Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-10 19:55 -0500
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 18:28 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-11 18:13 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 11:18 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
          Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-09 16:08 -0500
            Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000
              Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:34 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
              Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 13:06 +1300
                Re: back from the brink dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-10 15:21 +1200
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 18:32 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-11 18:13 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 15:35 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@isp.spam> - 2015-04-11 16:06 +0000
              Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-11 16:28 -0500
          Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 13:06 +1300
            Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
              Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
              Re: back from the brink dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-10 15:21 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
      Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 12:52 +1300
        Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
          Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
            Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-10 19:58 +1200
              Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
            Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
              Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-10 22:44 +0100
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 02:47 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-11 09:40 +0100
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-11 17:31 +0100
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 14:40 +0000
                Re: Back From The Brink "D. Spencer Hines" <d_spencerhines@america.com> - 2015-04-12 04:44 -1000
                Re: Back From The Brink Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-12 14:53 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 16:53 +0100
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 21:56 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-12 17:05 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 21:56 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-12 22:15 +0000
                Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 18:42 -0400
                Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-13 05:30 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-13 21:51 +0000
  Re: back from the brink "JohnT" <johnT@spamnot.com> - 2015-04-09 18:22 +0100
    Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
      Re: back from the brink "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-04-10 13:03 +0100
        Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
          Re: back from the brink "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-04-11 11:01 +0100
            Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
              Re: back from the brink "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-04-11 15:38 +0100
  Re: back from the brink Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-04-10 08:25 -0400
    Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
      Re: back from the brink John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-10 20:32 -0700
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      Re: back from the brink poldy <poldy@kfu.com> - 2015-04-13 11:09 -0700
        Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-13 21:51 +0000

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