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Re: C11 reference book

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On 01/04/2012 05:25 PM, Quentin Pope wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:56:10 +0000, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>> On Wed, 2012-01-04, superpollo wrote:
>>> Jorgen Grahn ha scritto:
...
>>>> Why wouldn't C11 be ontopic here?  Did you think he meant C++11?
>>>
>>> maybe he meant "go to comp.std.c".
>>
>> Possibly, although I fail to see that c.s.c would be a better place to
>> ask the question.
>>
>> I should add that my interpretation of "this is c.l.c" as "you are
>> offtopic" was just a guess.
> 
> In my opinion, until there is a conforming C11 compiler available on some 
> platform, discussion of C11 is purely theoretical and belongs in 
> comp.std.c.

comp.std.c if for discussions about the C standard: what it says now,
what it said in previous versions, what it should say in future
versions, whether a given piece of code had defined behavior according
to that standard, whether a given compiler conforms to that standard,
etc. Discussions about the language defined by that standard are
off-topic in that group, except insofar as they also involve issues
about the standard itself. It seems like a subtle distinction, but it
really isn't; "Are compound literals allowed by the standard?", "Is it
feasible to implement compound literals?", and "Should compound literals
be removed from the standard?" are all on-topic. "How do I use compound
literals?" is off-topic there.

comp.lang.c.moderated is for discussions of the standard C language,
even purely theoretical aspects of it, such as how to use features of
C11 that no one has implemented yet. comp.lang.c is a group with no
particular charter, that is commonly used for that same purpose, but is
also heavily troll-infested. It's also, for some reason, used instead of
comp.compilers.lcc for announcements concerning lcc-win32.  If and when
more people to move their discussions over to comp.lang.c.moderated
(don't hold your breath), we can finally abandon this newsgroup to the
trolls and the advertisers.

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C11 reference book Ioannis Vranos <ioannis.vranos@gmail.com> - 2012-01-03 08:16 -0800
  Re: C11 reference book Ralph Spitzner <rasp@spitzner.org> - 2012-01-04 10:48 +0100
    Re: C11 reference book Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-01-04 13:40 +0000
      Re: C11 reference book superpollo <superpollo@tznvy.pbz> - 2012-01-04 15:11 +0100
        Re: C11 reference book Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-01-04 19:56 +0000
          Re: C11 reference book Quentin Pope <qp19433@hotmail.NOSPAM.com> - 2012-01-04 22:25 +0000
            Re: C11 reference book James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-01-04 19:01 -0500

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