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Re: event horizon.

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: event horizon.
Date 2018-03-22 18:10 +0100
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
Message-ID <4855058.Sb9uPGUboI@PointedEars.de> (permalink)
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Steven Carlip wrote:

> It's true that the "areal radial coordinate" at the horizon --
> the "radius" determined from the square root of the area -- is
> often called the "Schwarzschild radius."  But this is historical
> accident, coming from a time that the distinctions among different
> coordinates was not very well understood. 

Thank you for your explanation.  However:

> I think I can safely say that few, if any, experts on GR would actually
> say that the "Schwarzschild radius" was the radius of a black hole.

As one example of many that, AISB, can be found easily with a 
Google/whatever Web search keywords “black hole radius”:

Stephen W. Hawking, Malcolm J. Perry, Andrew Strominger (2016).  
Superrotation Charge and Supertranslation Hair on Black Holes.
<https://arxiv.org/abs/1611.09175>

| 2.3 Discussion
| 
| […]
| In this type of situation, however, peeling can typically be restored by
| adding incoming radiation in just such a finetuned way that the solution
| is exactly Schwarzschild outside some arbitrarily large but finite radius
| [105–107].  […]

I leave it to you to check the references.


PointedEars
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