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Re: Malware help and skepticism

From Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Malware help and skepticism
Date 2014-02-05 06:32 -0800
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JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes:

> On 14-02-05 01:34, Doug Anderson wrote:
> 
> > Competent actors can behave like their characters _if_ their
> > characters are like themselves.
> 
> However, there is something about their body and voice  which does tend
> to transcend any acting they do and offer a constant "look and feel"
> across roles.

Sure. Hoffman was overweight for example.  His voice is very different
in different roles - I honestly don't know if you heard Hoffman's
voice in "The Savages" and his voice in "Charlie Wilson's War" without
seeing him if you'd notice they were the same actor.

In fact, even _with_ seeing them, you might not notice they are the
same actor.

> And I think this is what I got from the few movies of
> Hoffman I saw. (and I only saw a few). Their physique also tends to
> typecast them into certain roles.  One would not cast Hoffman as the
> athletic type in an action movie.
> 
> 
> I just checked imdb.  The only movies I remember watching with him in it:
> Twister (he was much younger)
> Talented Ripley ( mellow guy who likes jazz and appears to always be high)
> Mission Impossible III (bad guy).
> 
> So while I guess I shouldn't typecast him at all because this is a very
> small representation of his work. But I still get the impression that
> his role in Ripley reflected the real person most.

You could be right - who knows?  All I'm saying is that he's played
many _very_ different characters.  The original assertion was that he
was a snob and swaggart.  I'm not sure what that second word means,
but these assertions have nothing to do with who he actually was -
only to do with the roles that the person has seen him in.

> And when you factor
> that he was a drug user, perhaps it was the best representation (smooth
> talking slow moving guy who likes Jazz and appears to always be high).
> 
> One huge surprise for me I discovered a year or two ago happened when
> watching "The Undiscovered Country".  The young vulcan traitor had a
> familiar voice. I checked on IMDB and low and behold, it was Samatha
> from Sex and the City. Couldn't be more different !  But because of
> dress/hair/makeup (and age difference) Kim Catrall was not the same
> person physically in the two movies. So it becomes very easy to never
> make the association between different roles. It is also interesting
> that in ST-6, Katrall appears short, while in Sex in the City, she
> appeared tall.  And she gets an award for best award reception speech
> "you don't know how many men I've had to sleep with to get this award".
> 
> When I see an actor, I tend to try to figure out if I would like to meet
> her/him. So yeah, I type cast the person based on certain maneurisms and
> facial expresions/voice when they are acting.

I kind of do the opposite.  Too often I've had the experience of
really respecting an actor - because of how good they are, only to
find out something about the real person that is disappointing.  I'm
looking at you, Elizabeth Moss (Scientologist) and you, Daniel Day
Lewis (fake Pushkin scholar).

If someone is a great actor I prefer to just think about them as a
great actor and try not to worry about who they really are.
 

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                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 08:06 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-04 17:12 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 17:23 +0000
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                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 10:30 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 17:51 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 11:34 -0700
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                Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 18:10 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 18:20 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-04 17:29 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-04 18:28 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-04 14:03 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 19:22 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:24 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 08:56 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:28 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 01:11 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-05 07:25 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 13:27 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 14:20 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:42 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 15:02 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:18 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 16:44 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 12:48 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 22:58 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 19:13 +0100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:22 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:24 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 17:57 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-06 14:03 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-06 08:06 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 18:02 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-06 14:04 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 12:12 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 06:00 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-04 17:32 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 14:04 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-04 17:28 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 18:09 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-04 18:31 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:19 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 16:47 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 09:00 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:26 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 21:46 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:52 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 22:49 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:43 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-04 16:59 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 23:57 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 01:17 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 16:46 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:32 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-04 20:53 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 18:33 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 14:19 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 19:34 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 17:25 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 22:34 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 02:47 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:32 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 11:58 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 17:52 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 15:46 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:54 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 22:12 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 19:16 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 21:00 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 16:36 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 17:20 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:00 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 12:49 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 17:58 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:33 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 15:58 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 13:41 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:29 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 21:14 +0100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-07 12:35 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-08 10:04 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 19:10 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 03:53 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-05 09:05 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 13:31 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 14:24 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:36 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-05 20:50 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 09:28 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 21:50 +0100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-08 17:32 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-07 21:50 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 09:26 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:43 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 11:42 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:55 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:18 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:51 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 17:23 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-07 08:58 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-06 15:08 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-07 13:11 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 16:27 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-07 10:59 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-07 13:13 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-06 17:37 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-07 02:15 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 14:06 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 13:57 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 17:07 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 15:10 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 09:16 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:39 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:00 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:12 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 12:51 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 12:19 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:18 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 17:33 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 12:33 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 09:23 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:04 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:07 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 12:20 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 16:07 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:24 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 16:56 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 20:04 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 14:47 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 22:03 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 17:17 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 08:02 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-06 11:53 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 22:15 +0100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-05 21:05 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 14:19 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-05 22:31 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 17:28 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:11 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-06 02:22 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-06 13:54 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 09:53 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-06 11:57 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 09:56 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-06 11:47 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-06 20:05 +0100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 13:03 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-06 16:19 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 16:34 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 16:33 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-06 17:39 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-07 04:37 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-06 20:10 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 16:30 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-06 17:21 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 16:35 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:29 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:08 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 17:30 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 10:32 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-02-05 20:57 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 11:59 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 20:12 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-02-05 17:46 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 16:10 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 08:00 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 09:21 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:09 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 01:20 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 09:12 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 09:19 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 14:14 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:02 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:26 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-06 13:35 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 18:19 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-06 14:05 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 09:37 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-07 04:48 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 17:22 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 10:02 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 23:19 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 23:56 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 13:59 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 12:52 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-05 09:09 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 11:35 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:16 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 16:55 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 17:00 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-06 12:22 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 09:05 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 12:51 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 18:32 +0100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-08 08:31 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-07 17:07 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-08 11:52 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-08 10:38 +1100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-11 06:52 +0100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-04 13:28 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 08:50 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 11:05 -0800
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-04 19:20 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 08:53 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-07 19:39 +0100
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-08 09:40 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-03 18:31 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 13:01 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 11:36 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-04 14:11 -0500
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-05 09:06 +1300
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 09:39 -0700
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 21:22 +0000
                Re: Malware help and skepticism Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 01:07 +0000
  Re: Malware help and skepticism Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2014-02-01 08:03 -0600
    Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-01 09:08 -0500
      Re: Malware help and skepticism dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2014-02-01 20:47 +0000
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 16:41 -0500
          Re: Malware help and skepticism Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-02 11:27 +1300
        Re: Malware help and skepticism "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-02-02 15:05 -0500
    Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-01 07:55 -0700
      Re: Malware help and skepticism Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-01 11:22 -0500
        Re: Malware help and skepticism Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-01 20:10 -0700
    Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 10:36 -0500
  Re: Malware help and skepticism Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 10:30 -0500

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