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Re: Killer price on a mini PC

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Killer price on a mini PC
Date 2026-09-23 19:55 +0200
Organization Tebibyte_Retro_Gaming
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On 2026-09-23 14:11, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote:
>>> On 2026-09-23 09:43, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote:
>>>>> On 2026-09-22 14:28, Paul wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 9/21/2026 6:34 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Never had any trouble  - several apps like VLC would work
>>>>>
>>>>> But generally speaking, they like to sell you the tuner,
>>>>> and the software side is a slog of multiple steps, guess
>>>>> and by golly.
>>>>
>>>> Years ago, I found digital TV on Linux a such a huge pain that I gave
>>>> up,  bought a separate tuner, and ditched my TV card.
>>>>
>>>> I can't just say "Spain", then "search for any station, don't ask me
>>>> anything whatsoever". Same as I do in Windows, or with a TV set.
>>>>
>>>> Not in Linux.
>>>>
>>>> I bought a Gigaset M740 AV. It was wonderful.
>>>>
>>>> Two tuners.
>>>>
>>>> Can record or play using a samba share in the computer, or an external
>>>> hard disk plugged via USB 2.
>>>>
>>>> Can record two programs and play a third previously recorded.
>>>>
>>>> Can program things by timers or names.
>>>>
>>>> Gets the entire EPG saved on disk.
>>>>
>>>> There was a community developing improved firmwares, having a web page
>>>> doing so many things I forget.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, the stations are now high definition, and the box no
>>>> longer works. It works, but only tunes sounds.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I bought a cheap made in China HD box for my big TV, maybe 30 USD at the time,
>>> it can record to - and playback from a USB thumb drive, 128 GB now in it.
>>>    https://panteltje.nl/pub/sat_box_sizes_IXIMG_0907.JPG
>>> left the old satellite TV box, right the new one
>>
>> Yes, I have one similar. But they are not even close to the features of
>> the M740
> 
> Waht features do you mean?
> Mine can record, as times you can set, playback, sometimes I record stuff
> mosty music, or sciencewprograms an then later copy it to teh 4 TB harddisc
> also connected to teh big Samsung TV.

The M740 could record two programs and play a recording simultaneously, 
for instance.

It could edit a recording.

You could download a recording to the computer.

It could automatically record all programs named "kojac" in a channel. 
You could program the recordings using a web page on the computer.

It ran Linux. Originally there was a telnet port, then a community 
firmware update added ssh, I think. There was ftp and http

And many things I have forgotten. I asked ChatGPT for a summary:

Yes. The **Siemens Gigaset M740 AV** was quite an ambitious DVB-T 
set-top box for its time (around 2004–2005). It was essentially a 
**digital TV receiver \+ PVR + network/media player**, rather than just 
a basic tuner.  CHIP+1

  ### Main features

  - **Dual DVB-T tuners** — two independent terrestrial digital-TV 
tuners. This allowed you to **watch one channel while recording 
another**, and also enabled Picture-in-Picture (PIP).  ManualsLib+1

- **Recording to external storage** — it had **no built-in hard disk**, 
but could record TV to a USB hard drive or a network drive. Recordings 
were stored as MPEG-2 streams.  Golem

- **Time-shifting / timeshift** — with a suitable USB hard disk, you 
could pause live TV and continue watching later. The configuration 
allowed a timeshift buffer of up to **240 minutes**.  ManualsLib

- **Electronic Programme Guide (EPG)** — used programme-guide 
information for navigating TV schedules and setting recordings.

- **Picture-in-Picture** — the second tuner could display another TV 
programme in a small window while the main programme remained 
full-screen.  ManualsLib

- **Network connectivity** — built-in **100 Mbps Ethernet** allowed it 
to communicate with a PC or network storage.  Gigaset

- **USB 2.0** — two USB ports for external storage and peripherals.  Gigaset

- **Network/media player** — it could play multimedia stored on a 
PC/network drive or USB disk, including **MPEG-1/MPEG-2 video, MP3 
audio, and JPEG/BMP/PNG/GIF images**.  Golem

- **PC-to-TV streaming** — the idea was that you could keep your media 
on a computer elsewhere in the house and play it through the M740 AV on 
your television.  ManualsLib

- **SCART connections** — two Euro-AV/SCART sockets, one intended for 
the TV and another for a VCR/other AV equipment.  Gigaset

- **Digital audio** — optical/coaxial-style **S/PDIF digital audio 
output** (listed as Audio Digital), plus analogue stereo RCA outputs. 
Gigaset

- **PAL television output** — designed for the analogue PAL/SCART 
television environment of the period.  Recambios y Accesorios Online

- **Software updates** — firmware could be updated manually, 
automatically, or via DVB-T according to the manual.  ManualsLib

  ### Hardware specifications

| Feature               | M740 AV                   |
| --------------------- | ------------------------- |
| TV tuners             | **2 × DVB-T**             |
| Network               | **100 Mbps Ethernet**     |
| USB                   | **2 × USB 2.0**           |
| Video/TV              | **2 × SCART**             |
| Analogue audio        | Left/right RCA            |
| Digital audio         | S/PDIF                    |
| Internal HDD          | **No**                    |
| External recording    | USB HDD / network storage |
| Dimensions            | \~200 × 200 × 66 mm       |
| Weight                | \~850 g                   |
| Power                 | 230 V / 50 Hz             |
| Standby consumption   | \~1.7 W                   |
| Operating consumption | \~12.5 W                  |

### What makes it interesting today

  The really interesting part is that **this wasn't simply a DVB-T 
decoder**. Siemens essentially built a networked media centre around a 
dual-tuner PVR. For 2004, the combination of **dual DVB-T \+ USB 
recording + timeshift \+ Ethernet + network media playback** was fairly 
sophisticated.  CHIP+1

  There is one major caveat today: it was designed for the **original 
DVB-T era**, so its usefulness depends heavily on what digital 
terrestrial television standards are currently transmitted in your area. 
Modern DVB-T/T2 compatibility is a particularly important question 
before assuming it can still receive today's broadcasts.

  If you're asking because **you have an M740 AV in front of you**, I 
can also explain its **connections, how to use a USB hard drive with it, 
what file formats it supports, and whether it's still useful with modern 
Spanish DVB-T**.




> Or a bit longer ago to DVD or blueray, or M-Disc
> more than 1000 discs here, this is box 1 with 1000 discs:
>   https://panteltje.nl/pub/CD_box_binnenkant_IXIMG_0549.JPG
> Holds old Linux distros too :-)
> 
>   
>   
>>> Things get ever smaller..
>>> Mostly satellite reception here,
>>> have an other made in China box for the local TV stations
>>> But the TV can do the reception by itself, is merely used as HDMI monitor,
>>> As I have a big steerable satellie dish that draws a bit of power when moving
>>> I prefer to use the boxes to drive the satellitedish  motor,
>>> that ways protecting my expensive TV
>>> Anyways it all works perfectly, whole world on my TV with that movable dish.
>>>
>>>    
>>> I have several RTL_SDR sticks in use, some record my outside weather sensor,
>>> some airplane traffic, some ship traffic, some ham radio and TV,
>>>    https://panteltje.online/pub/boats_and_planes.gif
>>>
>>> Use thse for spectrum analyzer too:
>>>    https://panteltje.nl/pub/radar_spectrum_sidebands.gif
>>>
>>> I write all that software myself, do use some libraries of course,
>>> open source much of it,Downloads here:
>>>    https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/download.html
>>>
>>> rtl_sdr sticks can ever receive GPS
>>
>>
>> Cute :-)
>>
>> Most of my entertainment comes via fibre nowdays.
> 
> Yes they wanted me to get a fiber subscription too.
> But no way
> 
> For Internet at home and away I use a Huawei 4G USB stick,
> now plugged into this Raspberry Pi4 8Gb I am posting this from,
> when away I can put it in my Samsung laptop.
> 
> Fiber on the road ? no.
> 
> The rest here is satellite.
> One big advantage of satellite is that the 'fiber guys' will determine what
> you can see (they get much from satellite but pick the channels they forward).
> I can get stations from all over the world and viewpoints from all over the
> world via satellite.
> 

Aha.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:38 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 22:32 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-29 00:10 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 21:46 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 23:27 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 08:12 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 19:05 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-28 20:46 +1000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 12:03 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-28 17:37 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-26 19:14 -0400
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:10 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-22 02:20 -0400
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 07:50 +0100
                OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 18:59 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-22 19:52 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-23 02:29 -0400
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 09:50 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 12:40 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 13:38 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-24 19:46 -0400
                Re: OT - TV Mark Lloyd <nomail@here.invalid> - 2026-09-25 19:42 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-23 00:04 -0400
                OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 06:45 +0100
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-24 04:10 -0400
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:39 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-24 13:17 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:23 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-24 19:44 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-24 23:17 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 20:39 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:11 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-26 11:47 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:08 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:58 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:30 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-26 19:10 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 21:02 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 21:03 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:20 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:26 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-28 15:45 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:30 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 17:46 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 22:25 +0100
                Re: OT - TV NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 16:40 +0100
                OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 16:58 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 18:19 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:57 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:00 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) André Coutanche <acoutanche@gmx.co.uk> - 2026-09-29 21:50 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 22:33 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 22:48 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:07 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 15:51 -0700
                Re: OT - Lehrer c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 21:02 -0400
                Re: OT - Lehrer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:22 -0500
                Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:01 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 10:57 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-30 08:10 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:39 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-09-30 00:46 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 22:39 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:25 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 13:34 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:31 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-30 14:47 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 14:58 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:36 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 11:12 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:35 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 16:14 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:35 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:53 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-01 19:03 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 21:50 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:13 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 11:51 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 14:55 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-30 14:15 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 19:58 +1000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:52 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 22:13 +1000
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-27 11:56 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 19:28 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-27 15:28 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 10:19 +0200
                [OT] - audio distribution, Rediffusion-style (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:43 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-27 11:44 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:12 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-27 18:12 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-27 18:23 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:34 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-28 14:03 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:46 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-29 12:01 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 13:05 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 14:13 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Other John <nomail@here.org> - 2026-09-29 16:53 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 17:12 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:23 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:48 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 07:37 -0400
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:28 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:35 +0200
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:15 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:15 -0400
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:50 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:24 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-01 17:17 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:48 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-01 13:32 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:52 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-29 15:54 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 17:15 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:27 +0200
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 11:13 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 11:19 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:57 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 13:54 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:34 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:22 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:37 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:37 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:50 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-30 13:08 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:50 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:12 +0000
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-01 03:29 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:53 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 03:32 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:49 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:57 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 15:19 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:34 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 15:51 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:12 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 10:06 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 20:50 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-26 01:31 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:21 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:26 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:26 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:37 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:36 +0000
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 00:03 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:15 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 10:16 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:48 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:16 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:07 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 10:20 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:18 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:06 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:25 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:32 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:22 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:34 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:50 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:25 +0200
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:25 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:32 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:30 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-27 15:04 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:39 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-27 19:58 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 09:13 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-28 09:39 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 11:26 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 13:04 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:42 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-28 16:45 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 17:53 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-28 19:26 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:25 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 09:43 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:56 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 10:41 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 13:02 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 13:39 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 15:04 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 14:19 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 15:47 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 20:01 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 01:06 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:25 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 01:15 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 17:16 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 18:50 +0100
                [OT] - power (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 19:05 +0100
                Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 19:15 +0100
                Re: [OT] - power "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:48 +0200
                Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:00 +0100
                Re: [OT] - power c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 15:30 -0400
                Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:47 +0100
                Re: [OT] - power Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-30 13:28 -0400
                Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:24 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-29 14:58 -0400
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 01:04 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:52 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:01 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 20:18 +1000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:54 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Mark Lloyd <nomail@here.invalid> - 2026-09-27 16:46 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-29 21:15 +1000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 03:52 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:41 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:36 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-25 20:58 +1000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 20:56 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-24 22:24 +1000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:07 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-24 12:53 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:09 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 18:56 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Mark Lloyd <nomail@here.invalid> - 2026-09-25 22:03 +0000
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-25 22:42 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Mark Lloyd <nomail@here.invalid> - 2026-09-26 16:47 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 20:07 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-27 16:02 -0400
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-28 03:50 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 13:16 +0200
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-28 18:11 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-29 21:29 +1000
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-29 20:05 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 10:01 +0100
                OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 14:42 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 15:04 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 15:55 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:18 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-24 19:50 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 10:34 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:10 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:29 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 05:12 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-25 21:30 +1000
                Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-25 19:54 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:14 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:38 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:06 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 09:16 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 10:30 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:24 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:35 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 14:02 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-27 19:09 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 14:03 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-28 14:46 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-29 09:22 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-29 09:00 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:49 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-29 18:46 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:55 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:50 +0000
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:35 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:19 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:27 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:22 +0000
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:20 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:59 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:12 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:02 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 15:28 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:28 +0000
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 21:03 +0000
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:27 +0000
                Re: OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 15:04 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 16:28 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 15:51 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:20 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-24 18:26 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 09:20 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 18:44 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-22 16:05 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 18:31 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 09:45 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-23 14:41 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:09 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 03:14 -0400
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:10 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 21:55 -0400
                OT - TV (now radio) (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 09:49 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:32 +0200
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:30 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:36 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:55 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 17:10 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 22:09 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:45 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-29 18:16 +0000
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:58 +0200
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:05 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:07 +0000
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 15:28 -0400
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 01:07 +0200
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:41 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 22:27 -0400
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 03:10 +0000
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:39 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 19:36 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 18:27 -0400
                [OT] = X-rays and medical costs (was: Re: OT - TV (now radio)) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 20:16 +0100
                Re: [OT] = X-rays and medical costs (was: Re: OT - TV (now radio)) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-01 22:35 +0000
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 21:55 +0200
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 03:04 +0000
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:39 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 22:03 +0200
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 15:34 +0200
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 21:46 -0400
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:50 +0000
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-01 03:32 -0400
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:37 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 22:10 +0200
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:33 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-27 16:23 +0000
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 19:34 +0200
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:59 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-28 13:37 -0400
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-29 09:27 +0200
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 14:29 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (now radio) (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) Mark Lloyd <nomail@here.invalid> - 2026-09-27 16:51 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:55 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-28 01:28 -0400
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-28 07:12 +0000
                OT - electronic tinkering (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 17:19 +0100
                Re: OT - electronic tinkering (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-29 09:26 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 09:18 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-23 17:28 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:21 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-24 18:26 +0000
                OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-24 20:08 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-25 21:45 +1000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 20:05 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 09:22 +0100
                OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:43 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:43 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:25 +0000
                OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-24 19:57 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-24 21:13 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-24 17:47 -0500
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 10:53 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 10:51 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-22 08:22 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 19:01 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 07:19 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-23 13:32 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 14:50 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-23 18:40 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 21:10 +1000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 12:49 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-22 14:20 +0200
                OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 19:13 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-22 13:59 +0000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-22 02:20 -0400
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 21:16 +1000
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 12:52 +0100
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-22 15:35 +0000
                OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 19:51 +0100
                Re: OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 08:16 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 15:07 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-23 14:28 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 15:30 +0000

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