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Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal

From David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk>
Newsgroups uk.telecom.mobile
Subject Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal
Date 2018-12-03 16:44 +0000
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In message <g6kvq8F2m0rU1@mid.individual.net>
          MissRiaElaine <thisaddressis@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 03/12/2018 14:03, Andy Burns wrote:
>> MissRiaElaine wrote:
>> 
>>> On Rip Off Britain a few months ago, a security expert demonstrated 
>>> how it *is* possible. He scanned the card of one of the presenters 
>>> (Angela Rippon or Gloria Hunniford, can't remember which) 
>> 
>> Nobody has said that's impossible, indeed we've mentioned specific ways 
>> it *is* possible.
>> 
>>> then went online and purchased something using her card details.
>> 
>> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p047z45q>
>> 
>> What he exploited was an Amazon problem, not a contactless problem, 
>> anyone who saw your card and has more than the memory of a goldfish 
>> could have done the same that he did ...
>
>True, but contactless makes it a lot easier, and it's not just an Amazon 
>problem. A few years ago, the large company I worked for put one of its 
>call centres up for taking calls for donations to Red Nose Day.
>
>I volunteered for the call taking team, and we took plenty of money that 
>night. The two largest single donations were £900, which I took, and 
>£1000 which a colleague sitting near me had.
>
>The system that was used did NOT require the 3-digit code from the back 
>of the card. I find it very scary that amounts of this size can be taken 
>without this. I find it worrying that *any* amount can be taken in this way.

OK, but please forgive me if I've misunderstood: contactless was not
involved in any way there, correct?

Contactless can only be used for small transactions, so it would be
difficult in most cases to exhaust one's credit.

Fraudulent transactions are at the very least a damned nuisance, but
they can happen to anyone.  The credit card company is obliged to
reimburse the account holder promptly.  And fraudulent transactions
can happen without contactless; the difference is that the non-
contactless ones have a much higher limit on value.

Dave

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Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2018-12-01 11:38 +0000
  Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2018-12-01 11:55 +0000
    Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MissRiaElaine <thisaddressis@invalid.com> - 2018-12-01 13:05 +0000
      Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2018-12-01 14:11 +0000
        Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MissRiaElaine <thisaddressis@invalid.com> - 2018-12-01 16:40 +0000
          Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2018-12-01 17:31 +0000
            Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2018-12-01 20:20 +0000
              Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MissRiaElaine <thisaddressis@invalid.com> - 2018-12-01 21:57 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2018-12-01 22:09 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 08:51 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MissRiaElaine <thisaddressis@invalid.com> - 2018-12-03 13:33 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-12-03 14:03 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MissRiaElaine <thisaddressis@invalid.com> - 2018-12-03 15:18 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2018-12-03 16:44 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-12-03 17:06 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MissRiaElaine <thisaddressis@invalid.com> - 2018-12-03 17:22 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-12-03 18:26 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MissRiaElaine <thisaddressis@invalid.com> - 2018-12-03 20:39 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2018-12-06 17:35 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2018-12-03 21:08 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MissRiaElaine <thisaddressis@invalid.com> - 2018-12-03 22:11 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Clive Page <usenet@page2.eu> - 2018-12-04 14:47 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-12-04 16:39 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2018-12-06 17:38 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2018-12-06 17:36 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Chronos <usenet@chronos.org.uk> - 2018-12-04 06:00 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Flop <Flop@flop.knot.me.uk> - 2018-12-03 16:59 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2018-12-06 13:45 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MissRiaElaine <thisaddressis@invalid.com> - 2018-12-06 14:07 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2018-12-06 17:41 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2018-12-06 13:41 +0000
                Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MissRiaElaine <thisaddressis@invalid.com> - 2018-12-06 14:09 +0000
        Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2018-12-02 05:53 -0800
          Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal MB <MB@nospam.net> - 2018-12-06 13:42 +0000
    Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Clive Page <usenet@page2.eu> - 2018-12-01 17:53 +0000
      Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-12-01 18:09 +0000
        Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2018-12-01 18:19 +0000
    Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal brightside <brightside@sonnenkinder.org> - 2018-12-01 22:43 +0000
      Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2018-12-02 10:13 +0000
        Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2018-12-02 05:54 -0800
        Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-12-03 11:33 +0800
          Re: Want to shop online? Best have a mobile signal Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2018-12-03 14:47 +0000

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