Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology

From	Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
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Subject	Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology
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Date	2016-03-09 07:30 +0100
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Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

James McGinn, in
<news:a678955b-7929-400f-a8c0-a00a4ad0827c@googlegroups.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 7:41:03 AM UTC-8, pipp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> James McGinn:
> Whatever the case, your argument is contrived.  You are mixing metaphors and being deceptive.
> 
> LipperF:
> Like I said, this is the most direct example I can find of published data showing that moist air is less dense than dry air. 
> 
> James McGinn:
> There is zero data involving the direct measurement of the weight of moist air versus dry air.  Yet meteorologists continue to maintain the BELIEF that moist air is lighter than dry air as THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL CONCEPT IN ALL OF METEOROLOGY'S STORM THEORY.
> 
> The fact that this fact is casually dismissed by you and by all meteorologists is all anybody needs to conclude that meteorology is not a real science like physics or chemistry.
> 
> LipperF:
> Since air is a fluid, it really doesn't make sense to talk about its weight
> 
> James McGinn:
> LOL.  It's you meteorologists that assert that weight/buoyancy/convections is what powers all storms.  So your words sound funny coming from the mouth of a meteorologist. It's like you don't know what you think from one minute to the next.
> 
> LipperF:
> So if there are any publications that address your question directly (by reporting a weight rather than a mass or a density) they are not easy to locate:
> http://www.imeko.org/publications/tc3-2002/IMEKO-TC3-2002-038.pdf 
> 
> James McGinn:
> As you eluded, your reference is worthless.  The details of meteorology's convection model of storm theory are IMPOSSIBLE to locate. Meteorologists don't discuss these details.  It is strictly a taboo subject--literally.   
> 
> You have as much chance to get a meteorologist to discuss the mathematical details of convection as you do getting a priest to discuss the details of the inquisition.
> 
> LipperF:
> But since the weight of the sample is directly proportional to the density and the mass of the sample, both of which are reported in the reference(s) above, I find the publications to be thoroughly convincing.  
> 
> James McGinn:
> I find your claim that the sample is directly proportional to density to be absurd--plainly.  And I find the fact that you find this convincing to be evidence that you are not a real scientists and, by association, meteorology is not a real science.
> 
> LipperF:
> Nonsense. Meteorologists (as well as physicists, chemists, mathematicians, engineers, etc) spend a considerable amount of time and ink talking about how clouds, dust devils, thunderstorms, winter storms, supercell thunderstorms, monsoons, hurricanes, and tornadoes form. The conceptual and numerical models we use to analyze, simulate, and predict these systems are constantly analyzed for inconsistencies and improved when possible. 
> 
> James McGinn:
> As you just eluded, meteorology is a conversational science.  It's not an empirical science.  Listening to you is like listening to two clergy discussing a passage in the bible.  Meteorologists make observations.  They/you don't do experiments.  The basic assumptions of their/your most fundamental models are mathematically absurd/inept.  So they/you can't actually solve problems.  It's all talk and phoney math used to create the illusion that they/you understand what they/you do not.  
> 
> Before there was global warming there was meteorology.

Still denying Avogadro's Law, Jim?

The molar mass of water is 18.02 g/mol, as calculated from the sum of
the atomic masses of its constituent atoms.

The average molar mass of air (approximately 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen,
1% other gases) is 28.57 g/mol at STP.

Thus using Avogadro's Law and the Ideal Gas Law, water in its gaseous
phase and air have a molar volume of 22.414 L/mol at STP. IOW, a molar
mass of air and a molar mass of water in its gaseous phase occupy the
same volume of 22.414 liters at STP.

The density of water in its gaseous phase at STP is 0.804 g/L, whereas
the density of dry air is 1.27 g/L at STP.

Therefore that 22.414 liters molar volume would weigh:
18.02 grams for water in its gaseous phase
28.57 g for air

Therefore, water in its gaseous phase is lighter than air. Therefore
air with water in its gaseous phase in it is lighter than dry air.

Therefore, drier air *must* sink through air laden with water in its
gaseous phase, because it is less buoyant.

Ergo, your entire basis of argument is invalid, and you'll be
forwarding the $100,000 to my BitCoin account immediately.

Now, I'm sure you'll blather something like "that only applies if the
polarity of water is constant, it is not", as you've done in the past,
so let's just destroy that kooky little duck-n-weave right now, shall
we?

The solvent properties of water depend upon the hydrogen bonding of
water. If the polarity of the water molecule varied, the hydrogen bond
length would vary, and therefore the solvent properties of water would
vary. We know it does not change randomly, only from temperature.

<http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/images/solacid.gif>

M. H. Abraham and W. E. Acree Jr., The hydrogen bond properties of
water from 273 K to 573 K; equations for the prediction of gas-water
partition coefficients, Phys. Chem. Chem. Phys. 14 (2012) 7433-7440. 

The solvent properties of water changing with temperature are
explained by the Second Law of Thermodynamics, Jim... a more energetic
environment would cause those hydrogen bonds to be separated more
often, thus affecting the solvent properties as a measure of
temperature, *not* as a result of "variable polarity of water", you
kooktard:

<http://preparatorychemistry.com/Bishop_solubility_temperature.htm>

Thus, for any given temperature, the solvent properties of water will
not change, Jim, and thus the polarity of the water molecule does not
change, Jim. It is such a bedrock of all chemical processes involving
water that it can be graphed, as shown above.

Oh look, proof that the polarity of a water molecule does not change
unless *induced* to do so via application of electric charge:
<http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/dielectric_constant.html#polar>

The only way one can force the polarity of water to vary, given that
the polarization of water is, by definition, its electric dipole
moment density, is to apply an electric field to the water, you
kooktard.

Thus, if you're going to argue that the change in solvent properties
of water as a result of temperature change is a result of change in
polarity of the water molecule (an utter impossibility, but let's
entertain Jim the Moron for a bit), then according to your kooky
theory, water is an electrocaloric fluid! A change in polarity of the
molecule due to temperature would entail a change in the electric
dipole moment density, thus when that purported polarity change
occurred, your kooky theory says that, by necessity due to the Law of
Conservation of Energy, water *must* give off an electric charge!

And that, Jim, is just silly. As is your kooky conspiracy theory. As
are you, Jim.

Your theory has been demolished, Jim. It does not reflect reality, it
cannot reflect reality.

Now you get to backpedaling, Jim. You backpedal just as hard and fast
as you can... your delusional Dunning-Kruger afflicted state demands
that you do so.

<snicker>

-- 

Kensi the moron wrote:
================================
The sphere's Gaussian curvature is 1/r^2, and its area is 4*pi*r^2, so
the curvature is 4*pi
================================

Kensi the moron said the Gaussian curvature = 1 / r^2 *and* the
Gaussian curvature = 4 * pi.

Therefore, 1 / r^2 = 4 * pi
Therefore, r = 0.28209479176

Kensi the moron says every sphere in the entire universe has a radius
of 0.28209479176. Of course, being a moron, kensi didn't specify the
units.

The moron also said the Gaussian curvature of a sphere is dependent
upon that sphere's radius. Wholly incorrect.

Kensi the moron was corrected:
================================
Did... did you just say "the Gaussian curvature = 1/r^2" *and* "the
Gaussian curvature = 4*pi" therefore "1/r^2 = 4*pi"? Now you
backpedal, LunkHead.

You mean the Gaussian curvature = 1/r^2 * (4*pi*r^2) therefore =
(4*pi), and therefore the Gaussian curvature of a sphere is
independent of r due to its symmetry, thereby proving your original
"The sphere's Gaussian curvature is 1/r^2" blather *wrong*?
================================

But Kensi the moron persists in insisting that what he wrote isn't
fucked up, and that the Gaussian curvature of a sphere *does* depend
upon its radius, because he doesn't understand the equations he's
trying to use, he doesn't know the difference between 'constant
curvature' and 'Gaussian curvature', he doesn't know what an integral
is, and he's a halfwit who can't figure out even basic geometry
problems.

Now remember, this is the same moron who k'lames he's an
astrophysicist... yet he's stated that the Riemann curvature tensor
concept being the central mathematical tool in the theory of general
relativity and the modern theory of gravity, and the curvature of
space-time being described by the geodesic deviation equation, is
"science fiction" and "a howler".

In addition, the moron k'lamed that 4-D Minkowski space-time was
mostly positive Gaussian curvature, with only small areas of negative
Gaussian curvature, which proves the moron has no idea of the effects
of mass or magnetism upon the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold.

He has k'lamed that the Gaussian curvature of the universe is
predominantly positive, which means Lunkhead believes that massive
objects such as planets, stars and black holes ride *above* the
tangential plane of the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, thereby
making the planes of principal curvature positive Gaussian curvature,
and thus causing gravity to *repel*. It also means LunkHead believes
the universe to be finite, and therefore it cannot be expanding.

Lunkhead the moron has k'lamed that magnetism has "*no* effect" upon
the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, then backpedaled and said there
was a "small amount of positive curvature due to the energy density in
the field", thereby proving he doesn't know how magnetism affects the
4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, and denies the existence of
magnetic attraction.

Thus, Kensi the moron has described a universe in which planets could
not maintain their orbits, a universe in which magnets could not work,
and therefore a universe which could not exist.

Kensi is the same moron who k'lames that snow at a colder temperature
than the surrounding atmosphere is somehow violating the First and
Second Laws of Thermodynamics and giving off "blackbody radiation".

Kensi is the same moron who k'lames that snow gives off "blackbody
radiation" at wavelengths that would put the temperature of the snow
at 489 F.

Kensi attempted to back up his kooky k'lame above by further k'laming
that snow emits at wavelengths which correspond to a variety of
temperatures, presumably from 489 F to -422 F, because the moron
doesn't understand that the Planck curve breaks down under certain
circumstances, meaning snow emits in accordance with the Wien
Displacement Law in a ~2.1251 micron window centered on the ~11-micron
infrared atmospheric window, not Planck's curve.

Kensi is the same moron who first denied the existence of the
~11-micron infrared atmospheric window, then backpedaled and k'lamed
that snow emitted outside that ~11-micron window, and was proven
wrong. Then the spankard moron tried to use the backpedal of
"blackbody radiation" being at a different wavelength than spectral
emission, yet again demonstrating that the moron has no clue how
spectral absorption and emission works.

Kensi is the same moron who k'lamed heat flows from cooler to warmer;
that in a solid, molecules are "flying-and-bouncing-around-the-place",
that heat is "stirring up the molecules" and putting the molecules on
a "somewhat different trajectory", thereby demonstrating that LunkHead
cannot even grasp such basic topics as what heat is.

Kensi is the same moron who denies the NASA SABER study proving that
CO2 is a global *cooling* gas _because_ of the ~11-micron infrared
atmospheric window.

The reality exposed by the NASA SABER study also proves the Klimate
Katastrophe Kook Anthropogenic Global Warming k'lame of CO2 being a
global warming gas is a fairy tale that violates the First and Second
Laws of Thermodynamics, thus destroying CO2-induced AGW, yet this same
moron continues to cling to his delusions.

Kensi is the same moron who continues to cling to his delusion that
global warming causes more intense hurricanes, despite three
peer-reviewed studies proving the exact opposite.

Kensi is not an astrophysicist, he's far too stupid to be. He's just a
lumpy dumpy frumpy slumpy shroomtard loser trying to pretend that he's
intelligent... and failing badly.

That would be because Kensi is a moron with an underpowered brain that
struggles (and fails) to understand reality.

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                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-13 16:27 +0800
                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 05:54 +0100
                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-14 16:00 +0800
                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 17:16 +0100
                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-15 19:18 +0000
                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-16 03:30 +0800
    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 05:19 +0100
      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-10 00:03 -0500

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