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Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that?

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On Friday, April 27, 2012 6:07:08 PM UTC+1, Jens Thoms Toerring wrote:
> nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:54:40 PM UTC+1, Jens Thoms Toerring wrote:

> > > Of course, all this can be done in C (most scripting languages
> > > are actually implemented in C, so everything you can do in
> > > those languages can obviously be done in C).
> 
> > this is a theoretically true but practically useless.
> 
> Well, the OP was asking "if C language is good enough for that";-)

true, but implementing a script langauge before you start implementing the real problem may be an indication you've picked the wrong langauge. Though the Lisp metalinguists may disagree as might Fowler's "Domain Specific Languages"

> > > But note that C
> > > has no "native" support for networking or graphics, thus the
> > > need for additional (cross-platform) libraries (unless you're
> > > keen to re-invent the wheel;-). For TFTP and other protocols
> > > libcurl seems to be a candidate to take a look at. I don't
> > > know about BOOTP (wasn't that obsoleted by DHCP?). For gra-
> > > phics the only cross-platform library for C I know about is
> > > GTK+ (but I never used it) - most other seem to require C++.
> 
> > openGL, Qt
> 
> I fear using OpenGL for a simple GUI might not be too
> suitable since it's a rendering library and what you
> want for most simple GUIs is a set of widgets you can
> easily manipulate, 

I've used an inhouse GUI tool that was built on top of OpenGL, though of course building that's extemly non-trivial!

There's GLUT that claims to be a GUI interface

which isn't what OpenGL meant for
> if I didn't mis-understand its purpose. Qt is defini-
> tely C++ and I guess it could be a real pain if one
> would try to marry it to a C program...
> 
>                           Regards, Jens
> -- 
>   \   Jens Thoms Toerring  ___      jt@toerring.de
>    \__________________________      http://toerring.de



On Friday, April 27, 2012 6:07:08 PM UTC+1, Jens Thoms Toerring wrote:
> nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:54:40 PM UTC+1, Jens Thoms Toerring wrote:
> > > Of course, all this can be done in C (most scripting languages
> > > are actually implemented in C, so everything you can do in
> > > those languages can obviously be done in C).
> 
> > this is a theoretically true but practically useless.
> 
> Well, the OP was asking "if C language is good enough for that";-)
> 
> > > But note that C
> > > has no "native" support for networking or graphics, thus the
> > > need for additional (cross-platform) libraries (unless you're
> > > keen to re-invent the wheel;-). For TFTP and other protocols
> > > libcurl seems to be a candidate to take a look at. I don't
> > > know about BOOTP (wasn't that obsoleted by DHCP?). For gra-
> > > phics the only cross-platform library for C I know about is
> > > GTK+ (but I never used it) - most other seem to require C++.
> 
> > openGL, Qt
> 
> I fear using OpenGL for a simple GUI might not be too
> suitable since it's a rendering library and what you
> want for most simple GUIs is a set of widgets you can
> easily manipulate, which isn't what OpenGL meant for
> if I didn't mis-understand its purpose. Qt is defini-
> tely C++ and I guess it could be a real pain if one
> would try to marry it to a C program...
> 
>                           Regards, Jens
> -- 
>   \   Jens Thoms Toerring  ___      jt@toerring.de
>    \__________________________      http://toerring.de

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High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 18:50 +0200
  Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? "Heinrich Wolf" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-26 19:03 +0200
  Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? ImpalerCore <jadill33@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 11:52 -0700
  Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2012-04-26 19:54 +0000
    Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-04-27 10:02 +0100
    Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? pozzugno@gmail.com - 2012-04-27 02:20 -0700
    Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-04-27 07:27 -0700
      Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2012-04-27 17:07 +0200
        Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-04-29 04:08 -0700
        Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? TheGunslinger <mikiesrunsbaal.sec@sbcglobal.net> - 2012-04-29 12:57 -0700
      Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2012-04-27 17:07 +0000
        Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-04-29 04:15 -0700
    Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-04-27 19:16 +0100
      Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2012-04-27 22:37 +0000
        Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-04-28 03:46 -0700
        Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-04-29 04:37 -0700
        Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? Robert Miles <milesrf@Usenet-News.net> - 2012-05-28 21:13 -0500
  Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-04-27 00:57 -0700
    Re: High-level network programming: is C language suitable for that? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-04-27 10:56 +0100

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