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Re: Fazer maths for fakey

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Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Spankard), in
<news:drr1fb1ie10rdk3v4gjprledj60prudq9r@4ax.com> did thusly jump head
first into the wood chipper again:

Have you figured out that "within 10% error" does not equal "10%
error" yet, Mathematical Moron? LOL

I sure hope you're ready to get SPNAK!d silly, Shiny Tinfoil Spankard.
LOL

> FNVWe stomped a retard's brain flat. Again:

>> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in

>>> FNVWe stomped a retard's brain flat. Again:

>>>>>>> Ding ding ding!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No complex numbers, no euler's theorem, no fooly'all transformers.

>>>> He says, using Euler's Formula and not knowing it. LOL

>>> It's not Euler's Theorem, faketard.  I realize phasors
>>> totally mystify you, so you think it's all magic.  It's not.
>>> Did you see any complex numbers?

>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sine_and_cosine_transforms#Relation_with_complex_exponentials>
>> "The form of the Fourier transform used more often today is... Euler's
>> Formula"

> Wrong again, fakey.

Oh, that's right, you're the Mathematical Moron who's repeatedly
insisted that the Euler Formula has nothing to do with sinewaves. LOL

Have you figured out that atomic number does not equal effective
nuclear charge yet, Mathematical Moron? LOL

> Why do you never understand anything you google?  Oh... it's because
> you're a maffemagickal maroon.  LOL.

Translation:
"He's spanked me *again*. MUST BACKPEDAL AND LIE *HARDER*!" LOL!

What a spankard! What a drop-kick! What a slack-jawed furrow-browed
utterly confused mathematical moron!

> They are explaining the fourier transform, and how they use
> euler's theorem

Bwahahaaa! You backpedaling moron. You've just admitted they're using
Euler's Formula.

Bwahahaaa! You backpedaling moron. You've just admitted that the Euler
Formula *is* a subset of equations known as the Euler-Fourier
Formulas, which you denied prior.

"It's not Euler's Theorem, faketard."

DUUURRRHH! Moron.

SPNAK!

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sine_and_cosine_transforms#Relation_with_complex_exponentials>
"In mathematics, the Fourier sine and cosine transforms are forms of
the Fourier integral transform that do not use complex numbers. They
are the forms originally used by Joseph Fourier and are still
preferred in some applications, such as signal processing or
statistics."

You know, like with sinewaves. Moron.

> to substitute [cos(x)-jsin(x)] for exp(-jwt).

Shiny Tinfoil Spankard needs new glasses *and* a new brain. LOL

To do *what*, Shiny Tinfoil Spankard? Go on, say it...

Have you figured out that formulas are math yet, Mathematical Moron?
LOL

<snicker>

cos(x)+isin(x) is the trigonometric method for describing a circle and
transforming it to a sinewave, you nong. Euler's formula.

SPNAK!

<http://betterexplained.com/articles/intuitive-understanding-of-eulers-formula/>
==========================================================
Euler's formula describes two equivalent ways to move in a circle.

Starting at the number 1, see multiplication as a transformation that
changes the number: 1 * e^i*pi

Regular exponential growth continuously increases 1 by some rate;
imaginary exponential growth continuously rotates a number

Growing for "pi" units of time means going pi radians around a circle.
Therefore, e^i*pi means starting at 1 and rotating pi (halfway around
a circle) to get to -1.
==========================================================

>  You, of course, can't understand that, because

Have you figured out that a sinusoid is a transform of a circle yet,
Mathematical Moron? LOL

> you are a maffemagickal buffoon.  So you see instead

Have you figured out that "mnemonic" is not spelled "mneumonic" yet,
Mathematical Moron? LOL

> whatever your bleary bloodshot eyes wish to see.

Says the moron who got the exponent wrong above because his bleary
bloodshot eyes are too weary to see correctly. That all-day all-night
GoogleRaping is a bitch, ain't it, Shiny Tinfoil Spankard? LOL

>> Some Mathematical Moron wrote:
>>>   = A[cos(0°)x^ + sin(0°)y^] -A[cos(-120°)x^ + sin(-120°)y^]

> Right, some maffemagickal maroon wrote that.

Right. You wrote that. LOL

SPNAK!

Have you figured out that wave interference works the same for
standing and traveling waves yet, Mathematical Moron? LOL

>  What I wrote was
> 
>   = A[cos(0°)x^ + sin(0°)y^] -A[cos(-120°)x^ + sin(-120°)y^]

That's what you wrote, and that's Euler's Formula, Spankard.

But you've yet again fucked it up:
170\left(\cos \left(2\cdot x\cdot \pi \cdot 60+\left(0\cdot \frac{\pi
}{180}\right)\right)+\sin \left(2\cdot x\cdot \pi \cdot
60+\left(0\cdot \frac{\pi }{180}\right)\right)\right)-170\left(\cos
\left(2\cdot x\cdot \pi \cdot 60+\left(-120\cdot \frac{\pi
}{180}\right)\right)+\sin \left(2\cdot x\cdot \pi \cdot
60+\left(-120\cdot \frac{\pi }{180}\right)\right)\right)

<http://i.imgur.com/veVLHuI.png>

Whaaaaaat??? Your kooky sinewave subtraction equation produces 416.413
volts L-L from 170 volt peak L-N, Shiny Tinfoil Brain! Obviously
you're a Mathematical Moron blathering on about shit you don't
understand. LOL

SPNAK!

Uh-oh... take a look at this, Shiny Tinfoil Spankard:
<http://i.imgur.com/nWBbVbS.png>

You'll note *your* fucked up equation gets ~294 volts RMS L-L from 120
volt RMS L-N.

Did... did I just fix your fucked up equation *and* derive the correct
~208 volts RMS L-L from 120 volts RMS L-N? With the *correct* 30
degree lead phase shift? Yeah... yeah I did. LOL

SPNAK!

And *that* is going on the SPNAK!-pile, from which you'll run like a
coward. LOL

I note you cowardly snipped out the proof that you've yet again proven
yourself to be a Mathematical Moron:

Euler wrote:
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/e/4/2/e4285d1d4bd15710afcc2753c9ed3095.png>

SPNAK! on the Mathematical Moron, who didn't even realize he was using
Euler's Formula. Bwahahahaaa! That's going into the SPNAK!-pile from
which you'll run away.

> YOU, for reasons probably related to the fact that you don't
> know how to use your newsreader, added in the  thangies.

It looks fine on my end. Perhaps you're *such* a moron you can't even
properly run your newsreader, Shiny Tinfoil Spankard. LOL

> Fakey, have you solved for 'd' yet?

You mean d/dx [sin(x)] = cos(x)? Your desperate backpedaling strawman
which you propped up and kicked down as means of diverting attention
away from that giant whomping SPNAK! you took because you'd proved
you're a Mathematical Moron... and in so doing, proved *again* that
you're a Mathematical Moron? LOL!!

> Fakey, what's the effective temperature of the 700 nm
> red-body radiation from your cherry-red,
> glow-in-the-daylight re-re-re-re-SPNAKed ass?

I wouldn't know... you're the one furiously pounding out your
backpedaling bleatfarts by the light of your incandescently-spanked
ass, Shiny Tinfoil Spankard. LOL

Now, prove to the world that you're Usenet's biggest coward by running
away from your stupidity. Again. Spankard.

SPNAK! #1:
=========================================================
A Mathematical Moron wrote:
===========================
> "Sin^2 is a sine"... what a moroon.  LOL.
===========================

FNVWe stomped a retard's brain flat. Again:
===========================
<http://i.imgur.com/SU4YXB0.png>

Gee, that *sinusoid* sure looks like a *sinusoid*. LOL
===========================
=========================================================


SPNAK! #2:
=========================================================
>> Some Mathematical Moron wrote:
>>> = A[cos(0°)x^ + sin(0°)y^] -A[cos(-120°)x^ + sin(-120°)y^]

> Right, some maffemagickal maroon wrote that.

Right. You wrote that. LOL

SPNAK!

> What I wrote was
> 
> = A[cos(0°)x^ + sin(0°)y^] -A[cos(-120°)x^ + sin(-120°)y^]

That's what you wrote, and that's Euler's Formula, Spankard.

But you've yet again fucked it up:
170\left(\cos \left(2\cdot x\cdot \pi \cdot 60+\left(0\cdot \frac{\pi
}{180}\right)\right)+\sin \left(2\cdot x\cdot \pi \cdot
60+\left(0\cdot \frac{\pi }{180}\right)\right)\right)-170\left(\cos
\left(2\cdot x\cdot \pi \cdot 60+\left(-120\cdot \frac{\pi
}{180}\right)\right)+\sin \left(2\cdot x\cdot \pi \cdot
60+\left(-120\cdot \frac{\pi }{180}\right)\right)\right)

<http://i.imgur.com/veVLHuI.png>

Whaaaaaat??? Your kooky sinewave subtraction equation produces 416.413
volts L-L from 170 volt peak L-N, Shiny Tinfoil Brain! Obviously
you're a Mathematical Moron blathering on about shit you don't
understand. LOL

Uh-oh... take a look at this, Shiny Tinfoil Spankard:
<http://i.imgur.com/nWBbVbS.png>

You'll note your fucked up equation gets ~294 volts RMS L-L from 120
volt RMS L-N. How's *that* work, Shiny Tinfoil Spankard? LOL

Did... did I just fix your fucked up equation *and* derive the correct
~208 volts RMS L-L from 120 volts RMS L-N? With the *correct* 30
degree lead phase shift? Yeah... yeah I did, Mathematical Moron. LOL

And you have no idea how I fixed it, huh, Mathematical Moron. LOL

SPNAK!
=========================================================


SPNAK! #3:
=========================================================
>> He says, using Euler's Formula and not knowing it. LOL

> It's not Euler's Theorem, faketard.  I realize phasors
> totally mystify you, so you think it's all magic.  It's not.
> Did you see any complex numbers?

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sine_and_cosine_transforms#Relation_with_complex_exponentials>
"The form of the Fourier transform used more often today is... Euler's
Formula"

Some Mathematical Moron wrote:
> = A[cos(0°)x^ + sin(0°)y^] -A[cos(-120°)x^ + sin(-120°)y^]

Euler wrote:
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/e/4/2/e4285d1d4bd15710afcc2753c9ed3095.png>

SPNAK! on the Mathematical Moron, who didn't even realize he was using
Euler's Formula. Bwahahahaaa!
=========================================================


SPNAK! #4:
=========================================================
Here, Shiny Tinfoil Spankard... how about you take another crack at
refuting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H backpedaling from that giant whomping
drop-kick you just received, which you screamed "KOOK!", snipped like
a coward and ran away from.

If Gerald Newton is such a "kook", Shiny Tinfoil Spankard, why is he
smarter than you? You can't even figure out vector summation, because
you're Usenet's Mathematical Moron who claims formulas are not math.

<snicker>

===================================
Bwahahahaaa! The Mathematical Moron sticks up for the Mathematical
Mega-Moron. And that makes them both *wrong*.

<http://www.electrician2.com/electa1/electa4htm.html>
<http://www.electrician2.com/electa1/electa3htm.htm>
===================================
Mathematically, we can precisely *add* the three vectors for the line
currents by converting vectors into their horizontal and vertical
components by using trigonometry.  We can *add* the horizontal
components, then *add* the vertical components, then convert this to
polar coordinates to find the *sum* of the vectors. This is called
algebraic *vector* *addition*.
===================================

And that all goes back to you moron's inability to grok the
Superposition Principle, and thus the Additivity and Homogeneity
properties of same... mostly you... you k'lamed that superposition and
wave constructive/destructive interference were different things, and
that constructive/destructive interference worked differently for
standing waves and traveling waves... so you're especially moronic on
this topic...

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superposition_principle>
"Note that when vectors or vector fields are involved, a superposition
is interpreted as a vector sum."

There's not a minus sign in an equation on that entire page. Morons.

Here, you fecking *morons*... let me demonstrate it a way you halfwits
will hopefully understand...

<http://i.imgur.com/cuw4gus.png>

Red: 100 volt, 0 degree phase
Green: 100 volt, 120 degree phase
Blue: Red + Green

See where the Red and Green lines cross? What's that voltage? Oh, it's
50 volts. What's 50 + 50, you fucking *morons*? Oh, so when you sum
two like sinewaves, you shift the resultant to exactly between the two
tributaries, with the same amplitude as the tributaries.

Hence the resultant is 180 degrees phase from the remaining third
phase, hence the sum of the three phases of 3-phase AC must always
equal zero.

Now, let's look at what you morons are doing...

<http://i.imgur.com/zdNCScp.png>

Same exact graph, but the third phase has been added in Orange to show
the Blue Line is 180 degrees phase from that Orange line, and a Purple
line has been added to reflect DildoRider's moronic sinewave
subtraction equation... now remember, we're figuring out the
superposition (the constructive and destructive interference) of the
Red and the Green lines.

In that image, at the X axis where the Purple line peaks, the Red line
has an amplitude of 87 volts. The green line has an amplitude of -87
volts.

Now, you *fucking* *morons*... what is the wave interference result
when two waves interfere that have exactly opposite amplitudes? Oh...
that's right, its ZERO. Which is also why the Blue line is at ZERO at
that point on the X axis.

Where's that 173.205 volts coming from in DildoRider's kooky sinewave
subtraction equation, you *fucking* *morons*?

But wait! It gets even better!

<http://i.imgur.com/0l0SQjy.png>

That's the same exact graph, but with DildoRider's kooky sinewave
subtraction equation as purple and black lines... the purple line has
the 0 degree phase as the first part of the equation, the black line
has the 120 degree phase as the first part of the equation.

And one can see that the result is flipped. According to DildoRider's
kooky sinewave subtraction equation, he can convert 87 volts directly
into either 173 *or* -173 volts!

Because you're both Mathematical Morons.

SPNAK!

<dances a jig on the brains of the morons because I've irrefutably
proven myself right, and proven the two *morons* are indeed huge
fucking *Mathematical* *Morons*>

Why are you *so* *stupid*, Shiny Tinfoil Spankard? LOL

And the above proves DildoRider *and* Shiny Tinfoil Spankard have been
*wrong* about every fucking thing they've been blathering.

Bwahahaaaaa! Once again your Usenet Lord and Master drop-kicks your
moronic asses across Usenet.

I bet you wish you could be right just once, huh, Moron.

And I'll just drop another SPNAK! in here for added effect...

SPNAK!

You may begin backpedaling in 3... 2... 1... GO!

<snicker>
===============================================================

Your inability to understand, let alone refute, that reality stands as
your tacit admission that you are Usenet's Mathematical Moron.

SPNAK!

RUN! SHINY TINFOIL SPANKARD! RUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!

> -- 
> "The Euler-Fourier Formulas are used to perform vector
> summation of sinusoids. Moron."

Have you figured out that formulas are math yet, Mathematical Moron?
LOL

>   --Phakester offers instruction in the use of Sooper Hi
>     Maths

<http://betterexplained.com/articles/an-interactive-guide-to-the-fourier-transform/>
"The Fourier Transform takes a specific viewpoint: What if any signal
could be filtered into a bunch of circular paths?"

"The Fourier Transform is about circular paths (not 1-d sinusoids) and
Euler's formula is a clever way to generate one:"

"If you enjoy using 10-dollar words to describe 10-cent ideas, you
might call a circular path a "complex sinusoid"."

SPNAK! on Shiny Tinfoil Brain, who yet again backpedals,
blither-blathers, bleatfarts and proves himself to be Usenet's
Mathematical Moron. LOL

Why are you *so* *stupid*, Shiny Tinfoil Brain? LOL

I bet you wish you could be right just once, huh, Moron.

<snicker>

-- 

Shiny Tinfoil Spankard (aka Bite My Shiny Metal Ass) didn't know:
=====================================
MID: <13d33d0638e0ec690b63393d0710f658@dizum.com>
MID: <80d61a6928a9e7df316c519affcf3838@dizum.com>
The Euler equation is a subset of equations known as the Euler-Fourier
Formulas, thus that a sinewave is a transformation of a circle (which
should have been intuitive, given that generators *rotate* to create
*sinusoids*).

MID: <ff81cb60204ffbd777cd15a6261cfb67@dizum.com>
That cross correlation is used with Fourier transforms.

That superposition is the same as wave interference.

That wave interference works the same for standing or traveling waves.

That RMS and peak-to-peak voltage are two different things.

That RMS isn't a DC voltage.

That 170 volt peak, 120.208 volt RMS L-N 3-phase service gives 208.207
volts RMS L-L.

That 4444525800 != 4400000000 != 1.

The difference between frequency and period of a sinewave.

That there's no difference between 'i' and 'j' in electrical
engineering, physics and control systems engineering.

What a positive or negative vector is.

That the vector sum of 3-phase AC constitutes a closed loop per
Kirchhoff's Voltage Law, thus that the three phases sum to zero.

That "mnemonic" is not spelled "mneumonic".

That his claim: "Water is tetrahedral. It actually has 4 poles, 2
positive and 2 negative." is nonsense from a blathering moron.

That the term "electronegativity" denotes a *positive* effective
nuclear charge.

What the definition of the word "equivalent" is.

That digital voltmeters do indeed take discrete instantaneous samples.

That the atmosphere (and the gaseous phase water within the
atmosphere) does indeed follow the Ideal Gas Law to within 1.337842%
margin of error *worst* *case* at 70 F.

That the square of the instantaneous sample of peak-to-peak voltage of
a peak-voltage sinewave is an offset sinewave, thus its average does
*not* equal zero, as Shiny Tinfoil Brain k'lames.

That the Ideal Gas Law does not require an ideal gas because it takes
into account molar volume.

That "within 10% error" does not equal "10% error".

That water can be plasmized.

That atomic number does not equal effective nuclear charge.

And the moron continues to demonstrate his inability to read a graph.
=====================================

Shiny Tinfoil Spankard the Mathematical Moron maunders and mewls:
=====================================
"All you've shown us is graphs of formulas. No equal signs, no maths
done." - Shiny Tinfoil Brain demonstrates his Mathematical Moronism.
=====================================

SPNAK!

<snicker>

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