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Re: The Death of 10.8?

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In article <291020130735543773%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <291020130957237203%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > Sandman: > But isn't beta. And I personally disagree with that. Never
> > had any problems > with any 10.x.0 release. At least none that would
> > make me consider it > "beta".
> > 
> > Same here. That the new version gets updated in a month or so to fix
> > minor bugs still does not make it a beta. Crashes, locks up, doesn't
> > do what it is supposed to do--that would be a beta OS. I personally
> > haven't seen much of that since 10.0.
> 
> If I recall correctly from my days in software development, alpha means
> feature complete; i.e., all features specified in the design documents
> are in place and work at least rudimentally.

the definition has eroded (gmail endless beta anyone?) but as i learned
it:

development - work in progress. features being added or changed. likely
to crash and you will lose data.

alpha - feature complete. level one bugs (crashing) exist. you may lose
work.

beta - feature complete. many bugs remain but nothing major. can be
used for actual work but not ready for commercial release. 

release - most bugs fixed. there will always be some bugs but nothing
that is a show stopper

> Beta means that all major bugs have been squashed and all features are
> full operational, even if not bug free.  (This doesn't mean that
> something can't be broken later, or that a new feature can't be added. 
> When we were beta testing Claris Emailer 2.0, the beta testers
> requested a new feature, which we added.)
> 
> Golden Master means that the software is ready to ship, and needs only
> a final shakedown before release; if the shakedown discloses anything
> that requires fixing, it gets fixed and a new Golden Master is
> produced.

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The Death of 10.8? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 14:08 +0000
  Re: The Death of 10.8? Mordred <mordred@gmail.com> - 2013-10-28 15:53 +0100
    Re: The Death of 10.8? Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-28 15:12 +0000
      Re: The Death of 10.8? Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-28 08:34 -0700
        Re: The Death of 10.8? android <here@there.was> - 2013-10-28 16:48 +0100
          Re: The Death of 10.8? android <here@there.was> - 2013-10-28 16:55 +0100
            Re: The Death of 10.8? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-28 16:24 +0000
              Re: The Death of 10.8? android <here@there.was> - 2013-10-28 17:33 +0100
              Re: The Death of 10.8? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-28 10:10 -0700
              Re: The Death of 10.8? David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2013-10-28 16:14 -0400
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 09:39 +1300
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-28 14:23 -0700
        Re: The Death of 10.8? Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-28 15:54 +0000
          Re: The Death of 10.8? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-28 14:50 -0400
            Re: The Death of 10.8? Mordred <mordred@gmail.com> - 2013-10-28 19:56 +0100
              Re: The Death of 10.8? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-28 15:11 -0400
            Re: The Death of 10.8? Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-28 21:24 +0000
              Re: The Death of 10.8? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-28 18:10 -0400
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-29 07:49 +0000
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-29 05:49 -0400
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-29 10:25 +0000
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-29 06:52 -0400
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-29 11:41 +0000
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-29 10:29 -0400
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-29 15:38 +0000
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 06:36 -0700
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 06:35 -0700
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 06:33 -0700
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-29 08:47 -0500
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-29 15:45 +0000
                Re: The Death of 10.8? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 14:32 -0400
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-29 09:57 -0400
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 07:35 -0700
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-29 15:50 +0000
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 08:58 -0700
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-29 16:03 +0000
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-29 23:36 +0000
                Re: The Death of 10.8? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 14:32 -0400
          Re: The Death of 10.8? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-28 18:11 -0400
    Re: The Death of 10.8? David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2013-10-28 12:19 -0400
      Re: The Death of 10.8? Mordred <mordred@gmail.com> - 2013-10-28 19:59 +0100
    Re: The Death of 10.8? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-28 16:22 +0000
      Re: The Death of 10.8? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 20:53 +0000
        Re: The Death of 10.8? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-28 21:55 +0000
          Re: The Death of 10.8? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 22:53 +0000
            Re: The Death of 10.8? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-28 18:58 -0400
              Re: The Death of 10.8? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 23:24 +0000
            Re: The Death of 10.8? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-28 19:13 -0400
              Re: The Death of 10.8? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-28 16:32 -0700
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-28 16:35 -0700
                Re: The Death of 10.8? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-28 20:04 -0400
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-28 22:45 -0400
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-29 23:26 +0000
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-29 18:14 -0700
                Re: The Death of 10.8? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-28 23:59 -0400
    Re: The Death of 10.8? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 20:50 +0000
    Re: The Death of 10.8? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-29 10:53 +1300

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