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Re: Malicious Computer Architecture

From Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c, comp.lang.lisp, comp.theory
Subject Re: Malicious Computer Architecture
Followup-To comp.lang.lisp
Date 2026-08-06 23:01 +0100
Message-ID <27253.1071.416806.842336@parhasard.net> (permalink)
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Followups directed to: comp.lang.lisp

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 Ar an cúigiú lá de mí Lúnasa, scríobh Johann Oskarsson: 

 > On 04/08/2026 2:51 AM, Aidan Kehoe wrote:
 > 
 > Hello Aidan,
 > 
 > We haven't spoken for a long time, and I guess we're moving in different
 > social circles now.

I spent 2012-present debugging people, and until 2021ish without the time away
from that to maintain a social circle or do any XEmacs work. My social circle
just shrank!

 > You will find it amusing that my patch to the FreeBSD kernel, the one
 > that kind of tunes the TCP/IP stack, is presumably used by Whatsapp as
 > well.
 > 
 > At least, that's the rumor I heard; I wouldn't know the truth as I don't
 > work for Whatsapp.  I thought only 5ch and Netflix had sites large
 > enough to make use of it.  Well, sites both large enough, and hosted on
 > FreeBSD.
 > 
 > I promised myself to look into it later, and if I'm right -- at least,
 > that my patch is still there and all -- I'll let you know.

Good.

 > It's always fun to know that whenever someone streams from Netflix, the
 > TCP/IP patch I applied is being used; though I cannot say that it
 > streams through my code; it wasn't that kind of patch.
 > 
 > And I didn't, and don't work for Netflix either.
 > 
 > I hope you're also leaving trails of patches in various operating
 > systems that everyone on the planet, more or less, makes use of.

There’s enough to do with XEmacs plus running a business plus a three year old
daughter plus a fiancée, that I don’t anticipate any OS patches from me this
decade. Still, I save lives, and more importantly, prevent large strokes.

 > >   Ar an triú lá de mí Lúnasa, scríobh Johann Oskarsson:
 > >
 > >   > On 03/08/2026 6:28 PM, David Brown wrote:
 > >   > > On 03/08/2026 11:41, Richard Harnden wrote:
 > >   > >> On 03/08/2026 09:16, David Brown wrote:
 > >   > >
 > >   > >>> On most targets, function pointers are the same size as void*
 > >   > >>> pointers. But there are exceptions, with some small
 > >   > >>> microcontrollers and DSPs having different kinds of pointers with
 > >   > >>> different sizes, depending on the memory space involved.  I have
 > >   > >>> yet to see a situation where there was any reason for storing a
 > >   > >>> function address in a "void*" rather than a more appropriate
 > >   > >>> typedef, such as :
 > >   > >>>
 > >   > >>>      typedef void (*FVoid)(void);
 > >   > >>
 > >   > >> dlsym requires that pointer-to-function is compatible with a void*
 > >   > >
 > >   > > As I say, I have yet to see a situation where using void* for
 > >   > > function pointers was more appropriate than using a function pointer
 > >   > > type.  If the OS system calls or standard OS libraries makes it a
 > >   > > requirement that function pointers are converted to or from void*
 > >   > > for some calls, then of course you need to follow those requirements
 > >   > > - it's the people who designed the interfaces that made questionable
 > >   > > design choices.
 > >   >
 > >   > Nope, you're wrong.  You're dead wrong.  The world isn't built on C,
 > >   > even though here in comp.lang.c we like to pretend it is.
 > >
 > > The habit when I read comp.lang.c it was to assert that standard C was
 > > all that was worth discussing (yes, yes, it’s phrased as standard C is on
 > > topic, everything else isn’t; but there wasn’t the activity in the
 > > architecture-specific groups for them to be helpful when I was reading
 > > it). This is even more ridiculous; almost all the C infrastructure out
 > > there relies on what is undefined behaviour by the letter of the
 > > standard. But it’s still C, and it’s worth understanding and worth
 > > writing.
 > 
 > Yes, I remember that. I believe I came across a FAQ, probably comp.os. 
 > msdos.programmer, that said because comp.lang.c was full of standard
 > thumping trolls, a lot of regular programming, even Win32 got discussed
 > there. Yes, I'll quote.
 > 
 >    > Why does the  newsgroup seem to  be so C-oriented sometimes?
 >    > There   are   two    reasons.    First,  comp.lang.c     and
 >    > comp.lang.pascal     have       evolved     in     different
 >    > directions.  Comp.lang.pascal   has split  into  discussions
 >    > about individual Pascal compilers.  comp.lang.pascal.borland
 >    > welcomes discussion specific to  Turbo Pascal, and the other
 >    > new groups likewise.  Turbo  Pascal programmers tend to find
 >    > DOS questions  welcomed in comp.lang.pascal.borland, so that
 >    > comp.os.msdos.programmer gets  less   of the "DOS  in  Turbo
 >    > Pascal" traffic.  On the other  hand, comp.lang.c has stayed
 >    > closer   to   talking only   about    the C   language,  and
 >    > vendor-specific  or  operating-system-specific questions are
 >    > not welcome.  This tends to push  questions about disks, DOS
 >    > file  structure,  video,   the   keyboard,  TSRs,  etc.   to
 >    > comp.os.msdos.programmer  even    when those   programs  are
 >    > written in C.
 > 
 > So my take on it, is that the standard thumping trolls in comp.lang.c were
 > already a problem in the 90s. They just didn't know it, didn't care, and
 > nobody challenged them about it. Until now.

Most of my comp.lang.c was the turn of the millennium. I don’t have the
desire or spare time at the moment to read more newsgroups, and I’m happy with
my command of C.

 > I am challenging their rule.  And they can whine, and they can bluster,
 > but nobody cares about their mistaken sense of prestige and power.
 > 
 > They claim my cross posting is annoying.  As far as I'm aware, I'm
 > basically screaming into the void with my cross posts, because there
 > isn't enough traffic in the other groups to warrant complaints about it.

Fight on! Alternatively put the time into XEmacs (or packages) work, which is,
a better use of your time. (From my perspective, and probably in the grand
scheme of things; neither of is likely to make any difference to comp.lang.c.)

 > > Oh well, thank you the autoconf maintainers, thank you the cmake
 > > maintainers, shame about the difficulty with cross-compiling.
 > 
 > On that subject, I have to agree. I've largely given up on both for my own
 > projects. The problems with these tools isn't when they work, it's when they
 > don't. It can be a nightmare to get to the first build on a platform where
 > the build system doesn't work.

Well, it’s just one more platform to learn. I would love to move XEmacs to
cmake, given it would unify the POSIX and Windows build systems, but it would
be a huge investment of time to port it over, because I know autoconf but I
don’t know cmake.

 > I currently believe both tools make porting to a /different enough platform/
 > basically impossible. And that's based on hard earned experience.

My understanding is that cmake just requires a C compiler, no shell, no other
dependencies, so it should manage a different enough platform that has a C
compiler without problems. This is its attraction over autoconf, which
requires /bin/sh at least, and pragmatically more of POSIX.

 > >   > Several language environments allow function generation on the fly,
 > >   > these functions need to be garbage collected. Common Lisp is an
 > >   > example, therefore comp.lang.lisp is added to this discussion.
 > >   >
 > >   > I've also added comp.theory so Mild Shock can comment.
 > >   >
 > >   > You will have to go out of your way to make a computer architecture
 > >   > incompatible with garbage collected and heap allocated binary code,
 > >   > something I've been told SBCL does internally [1] to create an archi-
 > >   > tecture that has different
 > >
 > > I haven’t gone into the weeds of the GNU Emacs native-compiled function
 > > implementation, but it has to be doing something similar. The functions
 > > are not in the data segment, they’re not in BSS, they’re not on the
 > > stack; that leaves the heap.
 > 
 > And not to mention the operating system interfaces.  I'll name mmap(),
 > and Win32 has its equivalent, and while I'm not sure, OpenVMS might be
 > different too.
 > 
 > All of them return the equivalent of void *. So what are the programmers of
 > the JVM, CLR, and other virtual machines to do? They'll have to rely on
 > this "undefined behaviour."

Well, they have to port to the various platforms, that’s all. And hope the
platform defines the behaviour.
 > >
 > >   > *  sizeof ( void * ), and
 > >   > *  sizeof ( void (*)( void ) ),
 > >   >
 > >   > and when you do that, I'll just claim you're making a /malicious
 > >   > computer architecture/ and refuse to use it.
 > >
 > > Note that GCC on AMD64 produces function pointers that are one-byte
 > > aligned, which to me is a similar philosophy. There cannot be any
 > > performance advantage to that.
 > 
 > Can you please expand on that?  I'm not sure what you mean, and I hope
 > it doesn't create function pointers at strictly odd addresses, because
 > that's what it sounds like to me.

https://lidell.nu/xemacs-buildbot/#/builders/14/builds/690 throws an assertion
failure because I was storing a function pointer into a Lisp fixnum, which has
63 bits of precision. The least significant bit of the function pointer was
set.

-- 
‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’
(C. Moore)

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                Re: Malicious Computer Architecture "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 13:10 -0700
                Re: Malicious Computer Architecture (was: Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-03 14:29 +0000
                Johnny Depp prevention [Windows 11 etc...] (Was: Malicious Computer Architecture) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 18:10 +0200
                But how can you deploy. when its ROM? (Was: Johnny Depp prevention [Windows 11 etc...]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 18:15 +0200
                GPU Elasticity: Collective Communications Libraries (Was: But how can you deploy. when its ROM?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-07 14:37 +0200
                What are Flits and Phits? [Network on a Chip] (Re: GPU Elasticity: Collective Communications Libraries) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-07 18:07 +0200
                Cristallina: Thank you for the Beam (Re: What are Flits and Phits? [Network on a Chip]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-09 21:22 +0200
                Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog? [Prolog Education Group] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-18 16:26 +0200
                How to shoot yourself in the foot (Re: Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog? [Prolog Education Group] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-18 16:50 +0200
                Re: How to shoot yourself in the foot (Re: Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog? [Prolog Education Group] Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-19 03:24 +0800
                Re: Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog? [Prolog Education Group] Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-19 03:21 +0800
                Re: Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog? [Prolog Education Group] Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-18 21:13 +0100
                The Mac Neo is a Budget Monster [GPU Channels] (Re: What are Flits and Phits? [Network on a Chip]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-11 16:27 +0200
                The luminaries of duct-tape engineering [Sweeney and Torvald] (Was: The Mac Neo is a Budget Monster [GPU Channels]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-11 16:51 +0200
                Re: Malicious Computer Architecture Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-03 19:51 +0100
                Re: Malicious Computer Architecture Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 00:22 +0800
                Re: Malicious Computer Architecture Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2026-08-04 19:10 +0100
                Re: Malicious Computer Architecture Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 03:21 +0800
                Re: Malicious Computer Architecture Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-08-06 21:55 +0000
                Re: Malicious Computer Architecture Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-07 06:31 +0800
                Re: Malicious Computer Architecture Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-06 23:01 +0100
                A Case for Impurity: The Applied Pi Calculus (Re: Malicious Computer Architecture) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 14:58 +0200
                The Sandcastle of Paul Taraus Interactors (Re: A Case for Impurity: The Applied Pi Calculus) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 15:10 +0200
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 05:34 -0700
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 13:04 -0700
                Re: Prioritize Correctness Over Performance Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-04 00:52 +0000
                Re: Prioritize Correctness Over Performance scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-04 14:22 +0000
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 05:25 -0700
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-08-03 15:10 +0200
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 13:16 -0700
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-08-03 20:29 -0400
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 17:55 -0700
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-08-04 09:12 +0200
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 19:01 -0700
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-03 19:59 +0000
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 03:50 -0700
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 15:09 -0700
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-28 08:14 +0800
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 05:54 +0800
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness steveo@panix.com (Steven M. O'Neill) - 2026-07-31 20:34 +0000
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-07-28 19:40 -0400
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 15:36 -0500
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-29 04:56 +0800
              Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-07-24 14:47 +0200
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-07-24 16:27 +0200
                Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-25 00:52 +0800
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-07-24 23:08 +0100
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 18:50 -0500
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-25 01:54 +0000
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-25 15:20 +0800
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-25 07:24 +0000
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-25 15:30 +0800
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-07-25 10:37 +0200
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-27 00:35 +0800
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 12:39 -0500
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-07-26 22:27 +0100
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 18:02 -0500
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-25 22:32 +0000
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 15:58 -0700
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-07-25 10:23 +0200
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 16:29 -0700
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-25 15:25 +0800
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-25 15:33 -0700
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-27 00:38 +0800
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 17:06 -0700
                Re: Resources for Amateur Compiler Writers Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-07-26 17:03 +0000
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 16:50 -0500
                Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-07-24 16:13 -0700
            Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-07-26 15:26 -0500
        Re: Prioritize Performance over Correctness Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-07-23 11:18 +0200

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