Re: mouse movement detection?

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From	Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Organization	PointedEars Software (PES)
Date	2011-05-11 11:02 +0200
Subject	Re: mouse movement detection?
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Robert Heller wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Robert Heller wrote:
>> > In some cases, the site practically downloads the whole site and then
>> > does everything with JavaScript and the occasional use of AJAX.
>> 
>> That is *abuse*, which can be attributed to stupid people, but not the
>> language or the technology per se.  After all, you can do some pretty
>> stupid things with HTML, CSS, or PHP, too.
> 
> There are many of these 'abusive' websites...

Your argument is fallacious.  There are many badly written Web sites, 
regardless of the underlying technology.

>> You would be well-advised to keep your opinion to yourself until you know
>> what you are talking about.
> 
> Web sites that use JavaScript to redirect after a timeout period are
> another form of abuse.

That depends on the use-case.  For example, it is actually a Good Idea to 
have a client-side script log you out automatically after you have been idle 
for a defined time; it prevents others from abusing your login for cracking 
their way into the system.  If possible, that timeout should be user-
defined, though.  For example, I am frequently irritated by Outlook Web 
Access logging me out too soon, and there appears to be no built-in way for 
me to increase the timeout from the client side (I can think of a 
Greasemonkey script to work around it of course, but not all OWA users are 
programmers).

BTW, this is quite off-topic here.

PointedEars
-- 
Prototype.js was written by people who don't know javascript for people
who don't know javascript. People who don't know javascript are not
the best source of advice on designing systems that use javascript.
  -- Richard Cornford, cljs, <f806at$ail$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>

Thread

mouse movement detection? richard <member@newsguy.com> - 2011-05-10 09:57 -0700
  Re: mouse movement detection? Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2011-05-10 21:11 +0200
    Re: mouse movement detection? richard <member@newsguy.com> - 2011-05-10 12:23 -0700
      Re: mouse movement detection? "P E Schoen" <paul@pstech-inc.com> - 2011-05-10 15:42 -0400
        Re: mouse movement detection? richard <member@newsguy.com> - 2011-05-10 13:56 -0700
          Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-10 21:15 +0000
      Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-10 19:40 +0000
        Re: mouse movement detection? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-05-10 15:10 -0500
          Re: mouse movement detection? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-05-10 23:52 +0200
            Re: mouse movement detection? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-10 20:03 -0400
              Re: mouse movement detection? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-05-11 10:49 +0200
                Re: mouse movement detection? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-11 06:39 -0400
                Re: mouse movement detection? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-05-11 14:24 +0200
                Re: mouse movement detection? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-11 11:25 -0400
              Re: mouse movement detection? Sherm Pendley <sherm.pendley@gmail.com> - 2011-05-11 11:36 -0400
                Re: mouse movement detection? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-11 12:30 -0400
            Re: mouse movement detection? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-05-10 20:24 -0500
              Re: mouse movement detection? Erwin Moller <Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com> - 2011-05-11 08:16 +0200
              Re: mouse movement detection? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-05-11 11:02 +0200
  Re: mouse movement detection? Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-11 13:18 +1000
    Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-11 04:00 +0000
      Re: mouse movement detection? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-05-11 11:11 +0200
        Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-11 16:57 +0000
          Re: mouse movement detection? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-05-11 22:42 +0200
      Re: mouse movement detection? Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-11 23:34 +1000
        Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-11 16:53 +0000
          Re: mouse movement detection? Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-12 12:26 +1000
            Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-12 04:35 +0000
              Re: mouse movement detection? Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-12 16:09 +1000
                Re: mouse movement detection? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-12 06:52 -0400
                Re: mouse movement detection? Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-13 06:48 +1000
                Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-12 16:12 +0000
                Re: mouse movement detection? Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-13 07:36 +1000
                Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-12 22:05 +0000
                Re: mouse movement detection? Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-13 10:14 +1000
                Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-13 00:56 +0000
                Re: mouse movement detection? Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-13 20:34 +1000
                Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-13 15:36 +0000
                Re: mouse movement detection? Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-14 10:01 +1000
                Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-14 03:51 +0000
                Re: mouse movement detection? Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> - 2011-05-14 15:00 +1000
                Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-14 06:00 +0000
                Re: mouse movement detection? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-05-15 13:35 +0200
                Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-15 16:41 +0000
                Re: mouse movement detection? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-15 13:00 -0400
                Re: mouse movement detection? "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> - 2011-05-17 11:37 -0400
                Re: mouse movement detection? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-17 12:34 -0400
                Re: mouse movement detection? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-05-16 00:36 +0200
                Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-16 02:07 +0000
                Re: mouse movement detection? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-05-17 22:33 +0200
                Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-17 20:52 +0000
                Re: mouse movement detection? "P E Schoen" <paul@pstech-inc.com> - 2011-05-18 08:10 -0400
                Re: mouse movement detection? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2011-05-18 15:20 +0000
                Re: mouse movement detection? dougatmilmacdotcom@example.com (Doug Miller) - 2011-05-16 12:00 +0000
  Re: mouse movement detection? Sherm Pendley <sherm.pendley@gmail.com> - 2011-05-11 11:33 -0400

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