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Re: A tiny self-hosting compiler used for teaching

From ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de
Newsgroups comp.compilers
Subject Re: A tiny self-hosting compiler used for teaching
Date 2026-09-05 07:02 +0000
Organization Compilers Central
Message-ID <26-09-005@comp.compilers> (permalink)
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Michael Lehn <michael.lehn@uni-ulm.de> wrote or quoted:
>In practice, we have seen the opposite. Since introducing ABC, students who
>come to the course without previous programming experience have had a
>noticeably easier time. They can first learn the programming concepts without
>having to deal with some of C's syntactic peculiarities, and the later
>transition to C or C++ has not been a problem.

  Writing a compiler requires implementing complex data structures
  (like symbol tables) and managing memory. If students have no prior
  programming experience, they must learn basic control flow, data
  structures, memory management and compiler theory simultaneously.
  This creates a steep learning curve, even with a simplified language.

  The claim that transitioning to C or C++ later "has not been a
  problem" is the most debatable point. While learning concepts
  first is beneficial, C requires a deep understanding of hardware
  interaction, manual memory management, and pointers - areas where
  students taught via idealized languages frequently struggle.

From: ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)

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Re: A tiny self-hosting compiler used for teaching Michael Lehn <michael.lehn@uni-ulm.de> - 2026-08-25 08:05 +0200
  Re: A tiny self-hosting compiler used for teaching Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-09-04 21:12 +0000
  Re: A tiny self-hosting compiler used for teaching ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de - 2026-09-05 07:02 +0000
    Re: A tiny self-hosting compiler used for teaching Michael Lehn <michael.lehn@uni-ulm.de> - 2026-09-05 19:47 -0700
  Re: A tiny self-hosting compiler used for teaching George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-05 14:02 -0400
    Re: A tiny self-hosting compiler used for teaching Michael Lehn <michael.lehn@uni-ulm.de> - 2026-09-05 19:50 -0700
  Re: A tiny self-hosting compiler used for teaching ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de - 2026-09-05 07:02 +0000
  Re: A tiny self-hosting compiler used for teaching George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-05 14:02 -0400
    Re: A tiny self-hosting compiler used for teaching George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-07 15:23 -0400
  Re: A tiny self-hosting compiler used for teaching Michael Lehn <michael.lehn@me.com> - 2026-09-05 22:58 -0700

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