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Re: Where Do The Laws Come From?

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, alt.astronomy
Subject Re: Where Do The Laws Come From?
Followup-To sci.physics
Date 2018-04-05 14:12 +0200
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
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Whisper trolled (unquoted):

> On 5/04/2018 2:57 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Of course, you have your laws of physics for one thing or another...but,
>> 
>> you seem to avoid the question ...
>> 
>> Where Do The Laws Come From?
>> 
>> I understand the "we don't know" people...don't know
>> (which means since they don't know, you don't know, because you waiting
>> for they to know so that you know, cause you don't know how to know on
>> your own.) (which means you weren't taught how to Think on your own)

You are merely projecting your own ignorance.

>> But, but..avoiding the question... 'Where Do The Laws Come From?'

The laws of physics are formalizations of consistent observations in Nature 
(and therefore also called “laws of Nature”).

They allow us to describe with sufficient precision how Nature works, so 
that we can *predict* with sufficient precision how she *will* work, given 
initial conditions.

This allows us to understand better the world¹ that we are living in, thus 
our place in this world, and to design and construct machines (e.g. 
computers) to *use* the way that we understand that Nature works to 
*benefit* us.

    [One must not confuse laws *found* by scientists with laws *produced* by 
     lawmakers.  For example, the laws of Nature as found by scientists do
     not require a lawmaker, and there is no penalty for breaking them
     because they cannot be broken in the first place (only refined or
     found not to be a law of Nature at all [i.e., we had a
     misconception about an aspect of Nature]).]


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PointedEars
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¹  not just our planet, but our universe, or the (possible) multiverse
-- 
Q: What did the nuclear physicist post on the laboratory door
   when he went camping?  
A: 'Gone fission'.
(from: WolframAlpha)

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Where Do The Laws Come From? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-04 09:57 -0700
  Re: Where Do The Laws Come From? Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-04-05 18:51 +1000
    Re: Where Do The Laws Come From? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-05 14:12 +0200
  Re: Where Do The Laws Come From? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-05 12:55 -0400
    Re: Where Do The Laws Come From? Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com> - 2018-04-07 05:05 -0700
  Re: Where Do The Laws Come From? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-07 10:36 -0700

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