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Re: The weather regions are directly connected to the Sun

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Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

James 'Tardnado' McGinn, in
<news:a58847f3-02bf-4319-879a-80f8d697b5fc@googlegroups.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/04/30/how-plasma-connects-the-sun-to-the-climate/ 
> 
> It's recently been recognised that the atmosphere below the ionosphere is also a weak plasma due to the ionisation caused primarily by cosmic rays. So it's plasma all the way down! The weather regions are directly connected to the Sun; even the air we breathe is all part of the same system. 
> 
> http://www.sis-group.org.uk/event/2015-04-25/2015-spring-meeting-agm.htm 
> 
> Bob discusses the variability of the Sun and stars of a similar type. He looks at the Solar Wind-Magnetosphere Coupling mechanism by which events on the Sun directly influence the Earth's magnetopause, ionosphere and lower atmosphere. 
> 
> Text and slides available to read here.    High quality version here. 
> 
> Also viewable on Youtube, under the title "Our Variable Sun and Climate Change".

Bwaahahaaa! James 'Tardnado' McGinn believes, truly believes, the
nitwittery spewed at the sis-group.org.uk site.

TornadoTard is the anti-science nitwit who thinks the jet stream and
tornadoes are the same thing, and in fact thinks the jet stream
burrows down through the atmosphere to form tornadoes. His "giant
sentient tornado monster in the jet stream with noodly appendages
which it stretches thousands of miles through the troposphere to touch
down tornadoes" somehow continues to evade detection, though. LOL

Tardnado is the moronic kooktard who's fabricated an impossible
"plasma not-a-plasma" that cannot exist because water won't plasmize
unless hit with extremely energetic lasers because its nuclear binding
energy and dissociation energy are identical at 940.8 kJ/mol, and thus
water preferentially dissociates into hydrogen and oxygen. And he's
retracted the central premise of his "theory not-a-theory", upon which
his "plasma not-a-plasma" was predicated. LOL

Jimbo the Dumbo is the dimwitted nong who believes there exists in the
troposphere an energy source so energetic it can plasmize all the
water in the troposphere, yet it somehow magically doesn't dissociate
or plasmize all water on the planet (and kill all life). LOL

Tardnado is the braindead idiot who believes warmer air is heavier
than cooler air, but can't provide any math or research to back up his
moronity. LOL

James 'Tardnado' McGinn, Jr. is the uneducated shortbus window licker
who cannot grasp molar volume and molar mass, and thus believes water
vapor is heavier than air, and thus that air with water vapor in it is
heavier than dry air. LOL

TornadoTard Jim is the crayon-eating kook who dismisses 250+ years of
empirical experimental evidence proving he's delusional, yet won't do
a few simple experiments which will most definitely null his kooky
claims. LOL

Tardnado is the kooktard who can't get his fantastical fairy tale
claims through the peer-review process, and in fact can't even get his
kooky rambling writings on a pre-print server, and in fact, his "book"
reviews include such gems as "insane rambling", "waste of time",
"makes no physical sense", "Totally without merit.", "This book
misleads the reader", "offers a silly idea that confuses metaphors
with reality". LOL

Juuuuuuhhhhhames is the moron who has to "publish" his "discoveries
not-discoveries", which are nothing more than suppositions built upon
suppositions pulled straight from his ass, on a website that
specializes in topics such as:

"The Expanding Earth" - Earth expands, plate tectonics doesn't exist

"The Place of Reason in Botanical Life" - Genetic mutation doesn't
account for evolutionary change, plants have consciousness!

"Genetic Memory" - Evolution doesn't exist, reproductive systems have
their own consciousness and can intelligently change the offspring.

"An Alternative To Plate Tectonics" - Earth is hollow!

Yeah, this is the level of "science" that James McGinn's kooky claims
rise to. LOL

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Here, James, at the very least, try to address those tough questions
which spotlight the logical inconsistencies and contradictions
inherent in your "theory":

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Anders Nilsson measured (https://youtu.be/7hGqlEpvODw?t=2156) a
spectral peak that was not solid-phase nor liquid-phase water, James.
You claim that water remains liquid-phase upon evaporation. What was
Anders Nilsson measuring, James? Oh, that's right... gaseous phase
water, thereby proving that evaporation entails a phase change,
thereby proving latent heat of evaporation exists, thereby
*dis*proving a gigantic chunk of your theory, James.

You make a supposition that a "plasma not-a-plasma" is created from
water due to wind shear, which transports energy throughout the
atmosphere via wind driven by that plasma. Where does the energy come
from to create your "wind shear" to create your "plasma not-a-plasma"
if the "plasma not-a-plasma" cannot exist and thereby "transport
energy" by driving that wind to create the "wind shear" which creates
your "plasma not-a-plasma", unless there is "wind shear" to begin
with, James? Your logic is so twisted you're going in circles. You've
created a circulus in probando causality dilemma, which utterly
destroys your theory, James.

According to your "theory", electrostatic attraction *increases* with
distance (in violation of Coulomb's Law), which means that when an
electron falls in orbit, it has to *absorb* energy. And that higher
energy level somehow translates into a *weaker* electrostatic
attraction. Now let's look at the other side of the coin... the
electron in orbit would give off energy, rise in orbit, and somehow,
that *lower* energy level translates into a *stronger* electrostatic
attraction... how's *that* work, James? Explain how you've not just
violated the Law of Conservation of Energy on an atomic level.

How do your "jet stream vortices" travel potentially hundreds of miles
away from your "jet stream / giant tornado in the sky", without
detection by satellite *or* Doppler radar, and know where and when to
touch down so they always hit only cumulonimbus clouds, rather than
tornadoes randomly appearing out of the clear blue sky or from other
types of clouds, James? Is your "jet stream / giant tornado in the
sky" sentient, James?

Go on, Jim, tell us... *why* is there a "boundary" between the
troposphere and the stratosphere... we're waiting, Jim... No answer,
Jim? Is it because that's where your "sentient jet stream / giant
tornado monster with noodly appendages" lives, and it likes it that
way, Jim? Do you need your meds, Jim?

If, as you claim, the jet stream is a vortex, why is the ride while
inside the jet stream so smooth, James? Have you never ridden in an
airplane inside a jet stream, James? Is it just that your "sentient
jet stream / giant tornado monster with noodly appendages" likes its
back scratched by the aircraft, so it doesn't rip the aircraft to
shreds, Jim?

Do you not understand that once the air going upward through the
tornadic funnel reaches the cumulonimbus cloud base above the
mesocyclone, it spreads out, thus the tornado is strictly a phenomenon
which happens from cloud base to ground? It does *not* go from the
ground all the way up through the cloud to the tropopause as you
claim, James, and it most certainly does not continue for potentially
hundreds of miles in the upper troposphere to join the jet stream,
which would make air travel deadly.

Explain why the jets run easterly, whereas the dry line runs N-S, if
the jets are powering the creation of tornadoes. How is a tornado
being created hundreds of miles from the edge of the jets, James?

Which direction does air flow from a flame, Jim? Up, does it not?
That's convection due to temperature-induced density differential, is
it not? Which direction does air flow from a flame in zero gravity,
James? Radially in all directions, thereby snuffing out the flame due
to lack of oxygen. So your claiming that convection doesn't exist
means you're further claiming that gravity does not exist, and fire
cannot burn for very long before it is smothered due to lack of
oxygen. Or were you not aware that convection is a gravity-induced
phenomenon due to density differential, James?

How does a hot air balloon rise, Jim? That's due to air density
differential due to temperature differential, is it not? That
less-dense air is convecting upward. Do you deny this, Jim? Is your
giant sentient sky tornado monster stretching one of its noodly
appendages down and gently lifting the hot air balloon, Jim?

How are your atmospheric "water droplets" forming if they're plasma,
Jim?

Do you not know what the definition of "plasma" is, James?

How is your "plasma not-a-plasma" (which you have admitted is a
hypothetical construct in a failed attempt to lend your claims even a
semblance of plausibility) forming if the nuclear binding energy and
dissociation energy of water are identical, and thus the water will
preferentially dissociate into hydrogen and oxygen unless hit with an
extremely energetic laser, Jim?

Where is the energy (equivalent to photons of 103.32 nm wavelength,
extremely strong ultraviolet, just 3.32 nm away from x-rays... except
photons with shorter wavelength than 121 nm are absorbed high above
the troposphere because they ionize air so well) coming from in the
troposphere to form your "plasma not-a-plasma", Jim?

How is the energy to plasmize your "plasma not-a-plasma" not
dissociating all water on the planet and killing all life on the
planet given that the energy *must* be in the troposphere where nearly
all the water is, and where all life is, Jim?

Now that it's been proven that water molecule polarity doesn't change
upon H bonding (which would have side effects such as random changes
in the solvent properties of water... and we know those properties do
not randomly change, Jim), and in fact the two spin isomers of water
molecules account for the different H bonding strengths which account
for evaporation and condensation, do you still contend that your
implausible claims are workable, Jim?
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Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?

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