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Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too?

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.microsoft.windows
Subject	Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too?
Date	2022-02-22 12:43 -0500
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<220220221243372764%nospam@nospam.invalid> (permalink)
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In article <F07RJ.84949$Gojc.83658@fx99.iad>, rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch>
wrote:

> Actually, nospam does know his system quite well. He doesn't know 
> Apple's history _as_ well but definitely understands MacOS.

i know apple history quite well, having been immersed in it for years.
mac is a large portion of it, but it also other products, including
iphone, newton, apple ii, lisa and less well known products.

> Intel-based 
> Macs most likely run Windows without issue just as he claims so I stand 
> corrected on that whereas the M1 ones probably don't. I don't, however, 
> think it's a licensing issue as much as the fact that the ARM edition of 
> Windows 10/11 is not meant to be used on anything other than Surface 
> machines. It could, technically, amount to a licensing issue though.

it's a licensing issue. 

microsoft has an exclusive with qualcomm, which prevents them from
licensing it to others until that expires.

<https://www.xda-developers.com/qualcomm-exclusivity-deal-microsoft-wind
ows-on-arm/>

it's possible to get around that but it's considered an 'unsupported
configuration'.

there's a good chance microsoft will choose to license it for apple
silicon macs when they can, but that is not guaranteed. they're
certainly not saying anything one way or the other.

> 
> He definitely does defend the Mac to the death, even when it makes no 
> sense to do so. You have to be a serious zealot to think that a 128KB or 
> 512KB Mac with a palette of exactly two colours, no serious sound 
> capabilities, no ability to multitask, a complete absence of expansion
> and a tiny monitor which can't be replaced

things were different in 1984 when the 128k mac was released. memory
was not cheap and they were already having difficulties meeting their
price point with 128k, let alone 512k. 

the sound capabilities were quite good for the time, multitasking was
possible on a 512k, there were numerous third party expansion options
and the entire package was intended to be portable. some of the ads
showed people on bicycles with a mac in its carrying case, strapped to
the bike.

apple later added everything you listed as missing, including 6 nubus
slots on the mac ii, which could also run apple's version of unix,
known as a/ux, all in the late 1980s. 

<http://toastytech.com/guis/auxguimix.png>
<https://wiki.preterhuman.net/images/3/35/Picture-5.jpg>

> is somehow going to compete 
> with a computer that features a palette of 4096 colours with 32 
> simultaneous, 4-channel sound, expandability, the ability to be used on 
> a TV or a monitor of a user's choosing and pre-emptive multitasking. You 
> lose *ALL credibility when you make such statements.

as you say, you lose all credibility when you make such statements.

not only did the mac compete, but it won, at least against the amiga
and atari. it managed to survive against windows, despite major
obstacles.

there was a *lot* of software and hardware for the mac, and almost
nothing for amiga and atari. 

you're very fixated on raw specs and not what can actually be done with
a computer. kinda like the saying, it's not what you have but how you
use it.

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If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-20 16:33 +0000
  Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-02-20 16:38 +0000
    Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-20 16:58 +0000
      Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-20 12:09 -0500
        Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-20 13:05 -0500
          Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-20 20:37 +0000
            Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-20 21:38 -0500
              Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 04:16 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 04:38 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-21 08:05 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-21 08:38 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-21 08:55 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2022-02-21 09:27 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-21 11:32 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-21 13:25 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 15:16 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 02:30 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:29 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-28 05:44 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 15:14 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-21 21:16 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-22 05:27 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:09 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 12:43 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 13:37 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 15:01 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-22 16:44 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 19:36 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-22 21:14 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-23 07:58 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-23 09:01 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-23 09:27 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@R04.CH> - 2022-02-23 03:26 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 02:30 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:22 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 12:43 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 15:11 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-21 15:23 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-22 05:32 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2022-02-22 09:37 -0600
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 11:12 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-21 21:14 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-22 05:44 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:15 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 12:43 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 13:39 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 15:01 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-22 16:31 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 19:36 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-22 21:05 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-23 07:58 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-23 08:53 -0500
              Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-21 08:38 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 15:20 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-21 21:17 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-22 05:56 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:18 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 02:30 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:25 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 12:43 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 13:53 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 15:01 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-22 16:31 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2022-04-10 16:32 -0700
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-04-12 16:09 -0400
              Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2022-02-21 09:23 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-21 11:12 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-21 11:32 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 15:26 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-21 21:19 -0500
        Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-20 20:54 +0000
          Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-20 16:06 -0500
            Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-21 00:28 +0100
              Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-20 21:57 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 04:46 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-21 08:08 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-21 07:41 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-21 08:34 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2022-02-22 04:53 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2022-02-22 19:29 +1300
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 02:30 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-22 09:55 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2022-02-22 08:13 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-22 14:21 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 12:05 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-22 21:35 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 15:40 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-22 21:51 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 15:56 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-23 14:20 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2022-02-23 17:56 +1300
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-23 06:34 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-23 16:48 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-23 16:45 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Rex Jones" <w@dsdkle.com> - 2022-02-24 05:21 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-24 17:18 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? RonTheGuy <ron@null.invalid> - 2022-02-25 17:15 -0800
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-26 12:28 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-23 14:23 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-23 06:37 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2022-02-23 17:31 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? RonTheGuy <ron@null.invalid> - 2022-02-25 17:14 -0800
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-26 12:21 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? RonTheGuy <ron@null.invalid> - 2022-02-25 17:25 -0800
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-26 13:24 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-26 16:01 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-27 07:07 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-26 23:06 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-27 10:17 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-27 03:54 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-27 15:32 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-22 07:32 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 09:19 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-22 16:23 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:44 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-22 05:18 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-22 07:37 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-22 08:32 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 09:43 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2022-02-23 09:53 +1300
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-28 15:27 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-28 10:37 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-28 16:04 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2022-02-23 09:04 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@R04.CH> - 2022-02-23 03:24 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-23 17:05 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2022-02-24 05:34 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-23 19:25 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@R04.CH> - 2022-02-23 16:06 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? allen <allen@spam.com> - 2022-02-23 15:22 -0800
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2022-02-24 10:42 +1300
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-23 16:59 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@R04.CH> - 2022-02-23 12:13 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-23 17:39 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-23 21:58 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-24 07:19 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-24 01:33 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-24 17:04 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-24 12:40 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-21 07:46 +0100
            Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-20 21:47 -0500
              Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-21 07:43 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 21:39 +0000
            Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 04:19 +0000
      Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-20 13:01 -0500
        Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-20 20:44 +0000
          Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-20 21:42 -0500
            Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 04:54 +0000
              Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-21 08:09 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 21:34 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-21 21:27 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-02-22 08:02 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-22 08:42 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2022-02-22 09:14 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:30 -0500
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