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| From | Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.lisp |
| Subject | Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? |
| Date | 2026-09-22 19:03 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <20260922112634.171@kylheku.com> (permalink) |
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On 2026-09-22, George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2026 16:31:49 -0400, Stefan Monnier
><monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>
>>> I've never figured out what makes "delimited" continuations different
>>> from general continuations except that the implementation constrains
>>> where a "delimited" continuation may be invoked. But that seems to be
>>> a difference in usage rather than in kind.
>>
>>Full continuations are, conceptually, a copy of the whole stack, wrapped
>>as a kind of function that never returns.
>>Delimited continuations offer, conceptually, a copy of a chunk of the
>>stack, wrapped as a kind of function that does return.
>>
>>=== Stefan
>
> I appreciate the explanation ... but I'm a bit dense and I don't see
> what delimited continuations give you vs just creating the equivalent
> closure.
Delimited continutaions close over the entire context/environment
between the capture point and some dynamic contour (the delimiting
prompt). The delimiting prompt can be in a parent function, or
grandparent, etc.
When we invoke ("revive") a delimited continuation, the execution inside
that continuation appears to pick up from the same point where the
continuation was captured. This code has available to it the original
callling environment up to the delimiting prompt.
Here is the cool/key part: when the revived delimited continuation
returns to its original callers, and finally bubbles out to the capture
contour, at that point it terminates. And whatever value that emerges
from the capture contour will be returned to the caller which revived
the continuation.
> I look at continuations from the POV of a compiler writer: I see them
> as co-routines. Calling a co-routine is a "sideways" jump into a
> different call chain. If the co-routine is to finish and return, then
> obviously its originating call chain must be preserved.
If we must preserve the entire call chain, then we have an "undelimited"
regular continuation. A regular continuation is like a delimited
continuation delimited by the dynamic top level of the enclosing form:
the top of the current thread.
The difference is that a regular continuation does not return when
it reaches its capture limit: the thread or process terminates there!
Like if you have some (defun startup () ...) main function and a
top-level form which calls (startup). If inside startup a continuation
is captured, and that continuation is then invoked, it will return all
the way to (startup) which terminates and then the image stops.
A delimited continuation doesn't stop the thread or image; it reaches
its contour, and then that value is returned to whatever invoked the
continuation.
One obvious application for delimited continuations provides a way to
help understand them. Using delimited continuations, a block of code
(surrounded by a delimiting prompt) can speculate about multiple ways of
resuming itself. Say that block of code is Boolean, in that it returns
true or NIL for success or failure. Inside the block, a delimited
continuation can be captured. Then the block can try invoking the
continuation for various values, until it obtains a true.
It's essentially saying, "If I continue my computation with the value
42, will that make me return true? Oops, no it deosn't. Okay then,
suppose I continue myself with the argument value 73? Still nope ..."
Code can perpetrate a search of its future executions, with different
values, to find some condition, like a success indication.
This is how John MacCarthy's "amb" operator can be implemented
with delimited continuations.
> You mentioned above that DCs are wrapped in a function, so they can
> finish and "return" [for some definition].
Return mean to bubble out of the last enclosing frame that was
included in the capture, and then return to the caller which
invoked the continuation.
Importantly: all those frames that were returned from remain live: the
continuation can be used again!
(That creates issues for scoped-based resource and other
scope-based things.)
> But if the intent of keeping the stack is simply to allow the
> [co-routine] entry point to be in a nested function ... well then it
> seems that having the compiler perform closure conversion would get
> you to a result equivalent to the DC without needing to preserve the
> runtime call stack - which typically contains (lots of) extraneous
> state unrelated to the needs of the closure.
>
>
> Dunno. Perhaps implementations that heap allocate stack frames just
> don't bother with closure conversion, choosing instead to waste the
> address space and eat the extra GC processing.
Delimited continuations don't require heap-allocated stack frames.
One possible implementation is that stack frames are just stack
allocated, and so nothing is different when DC are not used.
When a DC is captured, the actual captured
part of the stack is copied out to a heap object.
When a DC is revived, stack material is copied out of its
heap object to the current top of the stack: the stack is extended
with all those captured frames, and the topmost frame inside of
that is made current. As the DC finishes executing up to its
delimiting prompt, that material naturally pops off.
(But the heap copy remains, for repeated uses of the DC!)
Thus, a spaghetti stack is never required.
--
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Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 01:46 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 21:44 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 05:17 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 08:43 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-06 05:13 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-05 01:03 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 12:31 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-11 14:55 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 08:42 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-05 11:02 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-06 01:10 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-06 05:21 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-07 11:52 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-07-08 01:46 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-08 03:04 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-07 19:30 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-07 19:34 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:03 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 05:44 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 03:21 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 23:22 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 09:15 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-11 16:04 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-13 12:12 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-13 14:59 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-18 14:15 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 08:23 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 10:02 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:58 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 23:53 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-17 05:55 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-17 01:43 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:07 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:58 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:52 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-20 00:04 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-11 06:37 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:30 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 00:58 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:46 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-15 06:59 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-15 12:25 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 07:47 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 17:42 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-12 00:16 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:34 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-13 00:11 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-13 04:06 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:37 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-13 21:25 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 15:26 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:37 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 01:34 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-15 05:43 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 11:23 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 00:23 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-16 03:29 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 04:59 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:10 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 22:42 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 06:01 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:12 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:35 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 15:53 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 13:34 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 22:41 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 20:31 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:04 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 17:44 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 08:36 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:43 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-14 10:36 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 23:55 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 18:04 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 12:33 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 02:56 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-27 20:25 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:37 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 16:55 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 08:41 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:44 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 07:33 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:30 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:08 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:53 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:22 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 22:00 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-05 22:34 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-08 22:05 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:42 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:48 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 21:18 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 11:19 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-11 10:00 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 18:31 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 19:35 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 20:56 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 20:21 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 22:44 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 22:50 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 01:35 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-12 16:28 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 05:03 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 07:14 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-14 06:47 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:33 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 11:42 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-13 15:39 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 16:52 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 05:04 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:16 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-14 00:11 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-13 17:16 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 10:27 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-13 20:35 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:04 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 23:58 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 09:27 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 23:35 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 18:35 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 21:14 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 21:01 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-22 23:48 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 01:20 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-12 09:12 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:23 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:26 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 01:19 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 16:25 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 23:30 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-12 16:52 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 17:53 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-24 09:46 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 17:43 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:39 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-12 23:23 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-10 15:05 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-08 22:00 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-08-08 14:14 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-09 20:34 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-08 14:45 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 02:18 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:47 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-11 11:38 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 18:59 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-15 21:12 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:20 -0300
Names for GenAI (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:30 +0100
Re: Names for GenAI ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-14 12:49 +0000
Re: Names for GenAI Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 09:51 +0100
Re: Names for GenAI Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-30 02:01 -0700
Re: Names for GenAI Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 13:56 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-29 16:16 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 13:46 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-30 17:15 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 04:07 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 12:26 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-11 16:06 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-11 15:03 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-13 12:12 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-13 15:55 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-13 20:37 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:18 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-29 22:06 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:15 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-30 21:05 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-31 08:01 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-04 22:08 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-05 11:29 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-05 23:46 +0530
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 19:41 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-08-10 14:44 +0200
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 12:31 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:21 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 07:17 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-07-31 12:21 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 01:48 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-05 13:13 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 21:48 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-08-06 09:05 +0200
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 11:33 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-06 15:49 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-06 20:23 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-07 09:36 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-07 11:58 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-08-08 19:02 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:59 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:23 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:59 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 08:56 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 17:38 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 08:57 +0000
Reader macros (was: Resources to learn common lisp?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-08-09 11:51 -0400
Re: Reader macros Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 00:48 -0700
Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 05:33 +0800
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:11 -0700
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-10 14:57 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 13:10 -0700
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-10 17:41 -0300
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 23:53 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-11 14:29 +0000
kqueues and port_create() (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:51 +0800
Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:59 -0700
Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 13:07 +0800
Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 03:23 -0400
Re: kqueues and port_create() Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:50 +0000
Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:33 +0800
Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-12 02:22 -0700
Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 20:55 -0400
Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:37 +0800
Re: kqueues and port_create() "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-12 12:59 -0700
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:26 +0100
D.N.S. in Common Lisp (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:59 +0800
Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-12 09:01 -0300
Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:20 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-12 20:46 -0700
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 14:28 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:46 +0200
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 12:19 -0300
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:24 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-13 17:39 +0000
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 20:58 -0300
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:42 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:46 +0100
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:29 -0300
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-13 17:31 -0700
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 14:04 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:52 -0700
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 10:27 +0000
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-15 01:19 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-13 16:14 +0000
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:31 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:52 +0100
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 12:30 +0000
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-15 01:33 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-15 19:44 -0400
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:06 -0300
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 02:28 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-21 15:23 -0400
Databases with Common Lisp (was: Re: Making production games in Common Lisp) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 07:54 +0800
Re: Databases with Common Lisp (was: Re: Making production games in Common Lisp) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-22 18:13 -0400
Re: Databases with Common Lisp steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-23 15:58 -0400
Dynamic scoping (was: Databases with Common Lisp) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-08-23 23:08 -0400
Re: Dynamic scoping (was: Databases with Common Lisp) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 10:24 -0400
Re: Dynamic scoping (was: Databases with Common Lisp) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 19:29 +0000
Re: Dynamic scoping Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:26 +0800
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-23 21:03 +0530
Re: Making production games in Common Lisp George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 01:42 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-06 18:05 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 05:26 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-08 18:37 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-09 08:52 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-09 11:50 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 23:01 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 19:09 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:23 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:23 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-09 20:36 +0000
What do you need from S.B.C.L? (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-10 05:32 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 19:02 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-10 00:56 +0100
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:30 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-12 16:31 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 17:07 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-12 17:20 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 14:28 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 00:54 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-08-11 20:20 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:51 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:35 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-18 21:34 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-21 02:12 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-21 12:28 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 09:17 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:52 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 03:27 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 12:16 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:03 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 08:46 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:38 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 12:22 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 21:04 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 13:18 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 22:16 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 20:10 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:34 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 17:10 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:41 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-25 09:22 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-25 22:13 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-26 11:33 +0530
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-26 15:43 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-26 18:23 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-27 14:43 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-27 13:01 -0700
Continuations via macros (was: Resources to learn common lisp?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-08-28 16:36 -0400
Re: Continuations via macros steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-04 22:01 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-29 03:06 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-04 22:15 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-16 14:56 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-16 13:42 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-17 20:03 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-09-17 00:12 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-17 19:36 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-17 21:19 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-20 07:18 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-09-20 16:31 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-21 04:40 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-22 05:30 -0400
delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-22 11:24 -0400
Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-22 19:03 +0000
Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-09-24 19:48 +0000
Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-24 20:53 +0000
Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-24 21:13 +0000
Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-24 21:21 +0000
Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-09-27 08:02 -0400
Re: delimited continuations - was Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-09-29 17:03 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-27 20:39 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-28 17:29 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-26 19:06 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-27 07:57 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-08-24 13:19 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 20:37 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 15:18 -0400
Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 12:51 +0000
Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:08 -0700
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