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| From | Don <g@crcomp.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.written |
| Subject | Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon |
| Date | 2026-09-15 12:02 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <20260915a@crcomp.net> (permalink) |
| References | <117jm72$eag$1@reader1.panix.com> <117p9h6$9vfl$1@dont-email.me> <pan$2d547$c142d774$e012dd75$58974503@cpacker.org> |
Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 08:27:34 -0700, BobbieSellers wrote:
>
>> On 9/6/26 05:27, James Nicoll wrote:
>>> Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon
>>>
>>> Ledom! Futuristic egalitarian utopia or something else entirely?
>>>
>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/just-conform
>>
>> Exactly!
>>
>> bliss
>
> This suggests a name for somebody who is obsessed with erasing
> gender differences: ledomist. They seem to be leading the culture
> wars these days.
Androgyny likely dates back to before Sodom and Gomorrah.
OF NATURE IN MEN by Francis Bacon (1625) sets a stage, so to speak,
for gender fluidity:
He that seeketh victory over his nature, let him not set
himself too great nor too small tasks; for the first will
make him dejected by often failings, and the second will
make him a small proceeder, though by often prevailings.
<https://www.gutenberg.org/files/56463/56463-h/56463-h.htm#Page_223>
A clinical treatment of androgyny is found in the Androgyny chapter of
SEXUAL ANOMALIES AND PERVERSIONS: PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT
AND TREATMENT by Magnus Hirsfeld (1937, posthumous).
Danke,
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(tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2026-09-06 12:27 +0000
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2026-09-08 07:21 +0000
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 06:38 -0400
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2026-09-08 11:42 +0000
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2026-09-08 11:46 +0000
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-09 02:31 +0000
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon BobbieSellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid> - 2026-09-08 08:27 -0700
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2026-09-15 07:46 +0000
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Don <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-09-15 12:02 +0000
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon BobbieSellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid> - 2026-09-15 08:01 -0700
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Don <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-09-16 11:16 +0000
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 15:16 -0400
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Don <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-09-17 18:23 +0000
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 15:56 -0400
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Don <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-09-18 02:00 +0000
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 16:20 -0400
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Don <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-09-19 00:59 +0000
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon BobbieSellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid> - 2026-09-15 07:40 -0700
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-09-15 08:58 -0700
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2026-09-16 07:42 +0000
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-09-16 09:11 -0700
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon BobbieSellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid> - 2026-09-16 10:33 -0700
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-09-17 08:46 -0700
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2026-09-17 07:53 +0000
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-09-17 08:52 -0700
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2026-09-18 08:00 +0000
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-09-17 13:45 -0400
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-09-17 19:06 +0000
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-09-18 08:52 -0700
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-09-18 13:02 -0400
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-09-18 08:46 -0700
Re: (tears) Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2026-09-17 20:07 +0000
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