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Re: The Tempest continued.

Date 2026-07-05 22:37 -0600
From squillage <yy@aba.et>
Newsgroups rec.food.cooking, sci.environment
Subject Re: The Tempest continued.
Message-ID <20260705223740.1ab17554@z-z> (permalink)
References (10 earlier) <1783281054-4746@newsgrouper.org> <20260705145257.183ffc4f@z-z> <1783285716-4746@newsgrouper.org> <20260705153806.747ecba9@z-z> <1783293362-4746@newsgrouper.org>

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On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 23:16:02 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

> squillage <yy@aba.et> posted:
> 
> > On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 21:08:36 GMT
> > dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
> >   
> > > squillage <yy@aba.et> posted:
> > >   
> > > > On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 19:50:54 GMT
> > > > dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
> > > >     
> > > > > Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid>
> > > > > posted:   
> > > > > > On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 10:29:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
> > > > > >       
> > > > > > >On 2026-07-05, dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
> > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > >    
> > > > > > >>>       
> > > > > > >> I like that idea. Your island       
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Continent.  Not island.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Continents and islands are primarily differentiated by
> > > > > > >size, plate tectonics, and biodiversity.
> > > > > > >      
> > > > > > >> has a lot of empty space, sun, and hardly any people. It
> > > > > > >> would be a swell spot for nuclear/solar power plants. My
> > > > > > >> guess is that Australia could become the power company
> > > > > > >> for the entire world. Where's E. Musk when you need him?
> > > > > > >>      
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Australia currently generates no commercial electricity
> > > > > > >from nuclear power due to long-standing legal
> > > > > > >prohibitions.      
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > AI says that an area as small as 35 km x 35 km (463 square
> > > > > > miles) of outback could provide all of Australia's energy
> > > > > > needs using solar energy. Anything beyond that could be
> > > > > > exported. But the problem is getting the energy to where
> > > > > > the demand is (Sydney, Melbourne, Singapore, Jakarta etc).
> > > > > >       
> > > > > 
> > > > > Maintaining 463 square miles of solar arrays seems
> > > > > impractical. Australia should go for the gold standard of
> > > > > power generation i.e., nuclear power. The future will be glad
> > > > > that they did. OTOH, I can't say if the Western world even
> > > > > knows how to build these facilities any more.
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uF2LD728Q    
> > > > 
> > > > China is playing nuclear catch-up fast.
> > > > 
> > > > We should hope they stick to nukes (which will ease coal and oil
> > > > demand) and quit hoarding the planet's fossil resources.
> > > > 
> > > > Unless or until solar is used widely to compress air for
> > > > nighttime and peak load turbine generation solar will be an
> > > > expensive partial energy solution.
> > > > 
> > > > https://youtu.be/VS05y9mQgbw
> > > > 
> > > > How Compressed Air Batteries are FINALLY Here.  
> > > > We can’t control the weather (yet). But we can
> > > > control how we store weather-dependent renewable energy. By
> > > > making use of salt caves, former mining sites, and depleted gas
> > > > wells, compressed air energy storage can be an effective
> > > > understudy when wind or solar aren’t available. It has the
> > > > potential to offer longer-duration storage that other
> > > > technologies can’t for a lower capital investment.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >     
> > > 
> > > Using molten salt to store heat energy seems like a pretty good,
> > > scaleable, technology. It seems simple and efficient - but is it?
> > > 
> > > https://www.cosinsolar.com/En/product/energy.html  
> > 
> > The project in Spain filed, followed by the California one.
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiPSy2bKZkE
> >   
> 
> I saw one of these plants while flying through Nevada. It might have
> been a failure but it was the most beautiful sight that I ever saw.
> The pilot never said a word about it. My guess is that he didn't care
> for it. Perhaps it interfered with planes flying through.  

Yeah, change of phase and the mirror concentration looks damned
impressive.

Barstow has one that does some dead birdy shit too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emBY6phmn9E

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  Re: The Tempest continued. A-Parmentier <A-Parmentier@invalid.com> - 2026-07-04 12:02 +1000
    Re: The Tempest continued. squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-04 10:47 -0600
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          Re: The Tempest continued. dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-05 01:30 +0000
            Re: The Tempest continued. Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 20:36 -0500
            Re: The Tempest continued. Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 11:37 +1000
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                Re: The Tempest continued. Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-07-05 10:29 +0000
                Re: The Tempest continued. Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 21:05 +1000
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                Re: The Tempest continued. dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-05 19:50 +0000
                Re: The Tempest continued. Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-06 06:11 +1000
                Re: The Tempest continued. dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-05 20:50 +0000
                Re: The Tempest continued. Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-06 07:01 +1000
                Re: The Tempest continued. Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-07-05 21:44 +0000
                Re: The Tempest continued. Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-07-05 18:17 -0400
                Re: The Tempest continued. Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-07-05 18:42 -0400
                Re: The Tempest continued. Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-07-07 04:41 +0000
                Re: The Tempest continued. sid croft <andz@mar.ty> - 2026-07-07 01:51 -0600
                Re: The Tempest continued. Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-07-07 08:56 +0000
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                Re: The Tempest continued. Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-07-07 07:52 -0400
                Re: The Tempest continued. Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-07-07 15:15 +0000
                Re: The Tempest continued. sid croft <andz@mar.ty> - 2026-07-07 10:00 -0600
                Re: The Tempest continued. dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-08 07:58 +0000
                Re: The Tempest continued. Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-07-05 21:43 +0000
                Re: The Tempest continued. squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 14:52 -0600
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                Re: The Tempest continued. squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 15:38 -0600
                Re: The Tempest continued. dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-05 23:16 +0000
                Re: The Tempest continued. squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 22:37 -0600
                Re: The Tempest continued. Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-07-05 17:23 -0400
                Re: The Tempest continued. squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 15:40 -0600
                Re: The Tempest continued. Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-07-05 18:37 -0400
                Re: The Tempest continued. squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 22:33 -0600
                Re: The Tempest continued. dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-06 20:45 +0000
                Re: The Tempest continued. sid croft <andz@mar.ty> - 2026-07-06 15:46 -0600
                Re: The Tempest continued. dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-07 18:03 +0000
                Re: The Tempest continued. Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-08 04:21 +1000
                Re: The Tempest continued. sid croft <andz@mar.ty> - 2026-07-07 13:46 -0600
                Re: The Tempest continued. Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-07 16:19 -0500
                Re: The Tempest continued. Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-08 07:47 +1000
                Re: The Tempest continued. Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-08 07:42 +1000
                Re: The Tempest continued. Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-07-07 14:28 -0400
                Re: The Tempest continued. sid croft <andz@mar.ty> - 2026-07-07 13:50 -0600
                Re: The Tempest continued. sid croft <andz@mar.ty> - 2026-07-07 13:44 -0600
                Re: The Tempest continued. squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 06:19 -0600
            Re: The Tempest continued. Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-07-04 22:23 -0400
              Re: The Tempest continued. dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-07-05 07:40 +0000
                Re: The Tempest continued. squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 06:17 -0600
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                Re: The Tempest continued. squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 15:34 -0600
            Re: The Tempest continued. squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-05 06:13 -0600
        Re: The Tempest continued. Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 03:37 +1000
          Re: The Tempest continued. Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 16:31 -0500
    Re: The Tempest continued. squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-04 10:48 -0600
      Re: The Tempest continued. Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-07-04 14:22 -0400
        Re: The Tempest continued. squillage <yy@aba.et> - 2026-07-04 14:05 -0600
        Re: The Tempest continued. Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-07-04 17:12 -0400
  Re: The Tempest continued. Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-07-04 14:35 +0000
    Re: The Tempest continued. Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-07-04 11:52 -0400
      Re: The Tempest continued. Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-07-04 21:38 +0000
        Re: The Tempest continued. Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-07-04 17:58 -0400
          Re: The Tempest continued. Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 17:28 -0500

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