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Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line

From Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com>
Newsgroups comp.theory
Subject Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line
Date 2025-10-28 21:23 +0000
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On 2025-10-28, olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/28/2025 3:23 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>> On 2025-10-28, olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/28/2025 11:44 AM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>>>> On 2025-10-28, Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> wrote:
>>>>> But most of all I'm surprised PO's trace buffer would fill up, unless there is an infinite loop in
>>>>> the picture.  (Your "infinite tower" would constitute such a loop, I guess, but then by the time you
>>>>> need to compress, isn't it clear there's such an infinite loop, so no point going further?
>>>>
>>>> The execution trace quickly fills up because when you have a doubly
>>>> nested simulation, it takes many instructions of the first level to
>>>> simulate each instruction of the second level.
>>>>
>>>> Each interpretation level in an interpretation tower is vastly less
>>>> efficient than the one above.
>>>>
>>>> The x86emu is particularly inefficient because it performs a detailed
>>>> simulation unconcerned with efficiency (executing as few host
>>>> instructions as possible to complete a target instruction).
>>>>
>>>> Say that the interpretation ratio is 100: 100 instructions of host
>>>> for one instruction of target. To simulate just 100 instructions of the
>>>> second traced level, the first traced level has to execute 10,000
>>>> instructions.
>>>>
>>>> If we could actually use "reckoning" to simulate the infinite tower
>>>> indefinitely, we could be counteracting this interpretation ratio,
>>>> because when the "reckoning" module takes over an abandoned simulation,
>>>> it effectively hoists it to its own level (the top level).
>>>
>>> Yet that is just cheating.
>> 
>
> It must be a pure simulation until the repeating pattern is matched
> Once the repeating pattern is matched it is flat out nuts to do
> anything besides abort and reject. Are you flat out nuts?

That's like saying it is flat out nuts to watch the rest of the security
camera video past the point in which the suspect is seen putting an item
into their pocket. As of to say, the shoplifting pattern has been
identified, and that's all that is needed for a conviction.
Effectively, there is no more video after that; they are "totally
busted".

But what if they just thave a habit of sticking things into their
pocket and subsequently they go to the front and present the
item to the cashier?

You have to watch the whole security video to keep the accusers
honest and fair.

Similarly, we have to watch the whole "footage" of what DD
does, not just up to the point where it is "accused" by HHH of
nontermination, but everything after that.

In the case of "Infinite_Loop", we do confirm that HHH is right
by doing exactly that: if we keep stepping the simulation 
of Infinite_Loop, we find that it loops.

Is that flat out nuts?

Or is it only flat out nuts when it catches you being wrong?

The abandoned simulation contains evidence which is relevant to HHH
being correct or not. You cannot withhold evidence; that's a crime-like
situation known as academic misconduct.

In any case, re-animating abandoned simulations works in the x86utm;
if it is nuts, point to the line of code that is wrong.

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    Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-10-25 20:44 +0100
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      Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-27 00:44 +0000
        Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 19:51 -0500
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          Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-27 01:16 +0000
            A dishonest dodge is all that Kaz has olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 20:20 -0500
              Re: A dishonest dodge is all that Kaz has dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 21:28 -0400
                Re: A dishonest dodge is all that Kaz has olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 20:32 -0500
                Re: A dishonest dodge is all that Kaz has dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 21:38 -0400
                Re: A dishonest dodge is all that Kaz has Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-27 01:50 +0000
                Kaz is now dishonored in his deceit olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 20:58 -0500
                Re: Kaz is now dishonored in his deceit Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-27 02:02 +0000
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                Re: Kaz is now dishonored in his deceit Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-27 03:46 +0000
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                Re: Kaz is now dishonored in his deceit olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 21:45 -0500
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                Can someone from comp.lang.c or comp.lang.c++ help out here? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 22:02 -0500
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  Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Mikko Levanto <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-10-26 11:06 +0200
  Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:11 +0100
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          Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 17:41 +0100
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          Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-27 16:58 +0000
            Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 12:02 -0500
              Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-27 18:42 +0000
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 13:53 -0500
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                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 15:40 -0400
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 14:53 -0500
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 16:12 -0400
                PO Meltdown? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-27 20:48 +0000
                Re: PO Meltdown? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 17:07 -0400
                Re: PO Meltdown? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-27 21:14 +0000
                Re: PO Meltdown? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-28 00:37 +0000
                Kaz is a damned liar olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 19:44 -0500
                Re: Kaz is a damned liar Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-28 00:52 +0000
                Re: Kaz is a damned liar "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 19:05 -0700
                Kaz is a damned liar olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 19:44 -0500
                Re: PO Meltdown? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-10-28 02:24 +0000
                D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 22:18 -0500
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 23:27 -0400
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-28 03:40 +0000
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 22:45 -0500
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 23:47 -0400
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-28 03:54 +0000
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 23:01 -0500
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-28 06:02 +0000
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-10-28 15:18 +0000
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 11:21 -0500
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-28 16:44 +0000
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-10-28 17:24 +0000
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 15:15 -0500
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 16:18 -0400
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-28 20:23 +0000
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 16:00 -0500
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-28 21:23 +0000
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 16:33 -0500
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 18:01 -0400
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 12:03 -0700
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-28 19:56 +0000
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                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 12:08 -0700
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-11-03 14:06 +0000
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                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 23:29 -0500
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-28 05:48 +0000
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 22:51 -0700
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                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-28 16:48 +0000
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 15:23 -0500
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                D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 21:58 -0500
                Re: D simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own first line "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 19:59 -0700
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                Re: Kaz insists on dodging this point only because he knows it is irrefutable Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-28 00:23 +0000
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                Re: Kaz insists on dodging this point only because he knows it is irrefutable Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-28 00:41 +0000
                Re: Kaz insists on dodging this point only because he knows it is irrefutable +++ olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 19:48 -0500
                Re: Kaz insists on dodging this point only because he knows it is irrefutable +++ dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 20:52 -0400
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                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 07:55 -0400
          Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2025-10-27 18:57 +0100
  Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-10-27 12:10 +0200
    Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 08:45 -0500
      Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-27 17:03 +0000
        Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 12:05 -0500
      Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2025-10-27 19:00 +0100
      Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-10-27 19:59 +0000
        Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 17:38 -0500
      Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-10-28 11:09 +0200
        Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-10-28 10:06 +0000
          Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 09:52 -0500
            Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-10-29 13:02 +0200
              Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 11:29 -0500
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 12:48 -0700
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-10-30 12:24 +0200
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 08:15 -0500
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-10-31 13:53 +0200
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 08:42 -0500
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 10:13 -0400
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-11-01 11:22 +0200
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 08:27 -0500
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 09:53 -0400
                understand this simple C ? --- counter-factual assumptions olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 09:22 -0500
                Re: understand this simple C ? --- counter-factual assumptions dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 10:37 -0400
                Re: understand this simple C ? --- counter-factual assumptions olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 09:41 -0500
                Re: understand this simple C ? --- counter-factual assumptions dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 11:24 -0400
                Re: understand this simple C ? --- counter-factual assumptions olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 10:32 -0500
                Re: understand this simple C ? --- counter-factual assumptions dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 11:44 -0400
                Re: understand this simple C ? --- counter-factual assumptions olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 12:04 -0500
                Re: understand this simple C ? --- counter-factual assumptions dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 14:14 -0400
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-11-02 14:35 +0200
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 17:31 -0600
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-11-03 23:48 +0000
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-11-04 12:00 +0200
          Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-10-29 13:01 +0200
        Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 09:55 -0500
          Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-10-29 13:03 +0200
            Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 11:29 -0500
              Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 12:49 -0700
              Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-10-30 12:29 +0200
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 08:17 -0500
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-10-31 14:02 +0200
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 08:50 -0500
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 12:58 -0700
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-11-01 11:32 +0200
                Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-01 08:32 -0500
  Re: No human has been able to understand this simple C in three years "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 18:50 -0700

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