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Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2

From Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc>
Newsgroups comp.theory
Subject Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2
Message-ID <20220704165842.00002bb6@reddwarf.jmc> (permalink)
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Organization Jupiter Mining Corp
Date 2022-07-04 16:58 +0100

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On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 09:45:45 -0500
olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:

> No one can provide any "rebuttal" of my paper on any other basis
> than
> 
> (1) disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language
> *x86 Instruction Set Reference* https://c9x.me/x86/
> 
> *or disagreeing with this necessarily true principle*
> (2) A halt decider must compute the mapping from its inputs to an
> accept or reject state on the basis of the actual behavior that is
> actually specified by these inputs.
> 
> 
> 
> This much more concise version of my paper focuses on the actual
> execution of three fully operational examples.
> 
> H0 correctly determines that Infinite_Loop() never halts
> H correctly determines that Infinite_Recursion() never halts
> H(P,P) correctly determines that its input never halts

As I have shown with my signaling halting decider there is no need for
a call to a simulation-based halting decider, H, from the input program
to be recursive; this is compatible with [Strachey 1965] and
associated proofs which are not recursive in nature.  Your H is invalid
as it aborts the simulation to prevent infinite recursion rather than
returning an answer to its caller which results in it giving the wrong
answer for a non-pathological input that calls H.

/Flibble

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Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2 olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-07-04 09:45 -0500
  Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2 Horatio Cornholer <midshipman@gmail.net> - 2022-07-04 08:31 -0700
  Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2 Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-07-04 16:58 +0100
    Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2 olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-07-04 11:54 -0500
      Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2 Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-07-04 18:25 +0100
        Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2 olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-07-04 12:33 -0500
          Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2 Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-07-04 18:39 +0100
            Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2 olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-07-04 12:51 -0500
              Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2 Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-07-04 18:54 +0100
                Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2 olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-07-04 13:00 -0500
                Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2 Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-07-04 19:38 +0100
                Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2 olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-07-04 14:09 -0500
                Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2 Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-07-04 20:13 +0100
                Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2 Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-07-04 15:40 -0400
  Re: Halting problem proofs refuted on the basis of software engineering V2 Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-07-04 15:02 -0400

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