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| From | pataphor <pataphor@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.postmodern |
| Subject | Boltzmann Brain Altruism |
| Date | 2021-08-05 14:05 +0200 |
| Organization | postmodern |
| Message-ID | <20210805140557.10dfa8dd@freespace> (permalink) |
There hasn't been a post for a long time here, so my apologies in advance for waking up people here who forgot they were still reading. The thing is, even if I don't expect an audience, I need some place to formalize my thoughts in, that is not just my personal hard disk but that is also not subject to the usual pull and push of some contemporaneous audience that is just not ready to accept the future, or worse, alternative viewing angles on the current state of affairs. The problem is, with the current interconnected system it doesn't really matter anymore where one posts stuff, and I am already anticipating a time where my personal disk or computer screen are as visible to the world as if I would create a blog for my thoughts, or commented on one, or posted on some heavily socially policed media site, no, even more visible, because of the increasing need for non cliche viewpoints, even if only the product of people still trying to find spaces at the ideal remote from the public to keep intelligent discourse viable. Instead of the medium being the message, we now seem to have arrived at a more soviet Russia dark humor type of situation where the blogs read you. I try my best to limit the feedback loop, by stopping to read the blogs I was pushing off from, as most of my energy still seems to be outrage fueled, but that energy kind of dissipates when any kind of speculation about the merits of the capitalist system or the concept of property is interpreted as the result of me supposedly being communist, leading to all kinds of dorky humor feedback on sites I don't even post to, just used to read. It's like the ideas I was criticizing lead to their non overt background supporters feeling personally attacked, causing them to behave like these toy puppets that always come up again after one pushes them over, with the rebalancing effort being instinctive rather than fully articulated. Although I am not a book or literature oriented postmodernist I have sympathized for a long time with some of the ideas behind it, the most important of it being the ideas around narratives and framing. So that is my justification for taking stuff here, combined with this probably being a mostly deserted place where not many people, if any, would take offense of my repurposing this space temporarily for describing some phenomena that probably even would have ended up on postmodernism's plate anyway had it bothered to continue to exist in the future, or in some alternative reality, where my target audience is supposed to hang out. With all the before being as it is, I will still try to tentatively form a gestalt that combines three of my recent outrages and fascinations; the fist being time crystals and their potential for enabling space travel, be it that in my interpretation of how that would work is more like them possibly forming interdimensional portals, like in that ancient 'sliders' TV series, although less prioritizing our current dimension, or 'world' as depicted there; the second outrage is about the canceling of Richard Stallman and how that was kind of initiated in the past with Linus Torvalds distancing himself from the seemingly overzealous direction the GPL was moving towards, with, in my interpretation, the new commercial coding co-pilot developments kind of proving him still right after all, maybe even not being acting strong enough, though admittedly being forced out of his philosophical position by personal attacks might have cowed him some; and the third thing, that should complete the gestalt, would be the initial outrage that started my line of thought, before I even knew I would decide to move the 'discussion' here, I mean can there be a discussion in empty space, unless talking to virtual opponents that arise from someone just reading stuff on the interwebs, the idea that the way the narrative around altruism, and not only that, but also the discussion about fear for future AI tech developments, is centered around individual humans existing all by themselves, suppressing the idea that consciousness does exist in a distributed way among many brains, could not come into existence in a flash by itself, and is heavily dependent on circumstances and what came before. Maybe the current ideas about altruism are just the result of the people talking about it not knowing about conditional probabilities which would also refute the idea of Boltzmann brains, but since these 'scientific' ideas originated in a cognitive environment (STEM?) where people are heavily biased towards individualism and great man theorizing, they couldn't see this easy confounder. Or maybe both Boltzmann brain altruism and our current fears about dystopias caused by technological progress and artificial intelligence suffer from a worldview where fears for the future act like blinders for the dismal status of the world we are living in now, from which all these things most likely would be the extension of, if we keep failing to address them. It all comes down to a failure to see what things could have been, out of fear of speaking out against the status quo, with these terrible futures acting as justifications for not acting in the here and now, because after all, we're not doing all that bad, compared to the past, and especially, compared to the worst imaginable things happening in the future. Just like elementary particles not being able to emit radiation in all frequencies, as this would lead to some kind of infrared catastrophe where all matter would evaporate into radiation, we cannot help but concentrate or quantize our altruistic efforts into just a few different portions. But even if doing that we have to take into account what will happen after sending out the money that is supposed to ease our conscience, and for that we have to take a harsh look at the situation on the ground far away, and since we're not even able to see the situation on the ground here, any effort that doesn't try to integrate local and distant narratives seems bound to fail for the same reason that Boltzmann brains fail to materialize. Imagine being wrapped in a convex hull of time crystals, acting like some kind of super lube for the space time we're in, enabling one to 'rotate' to a different direction, without using any energy, or at least via a method where one could get the same energy back when rotating back towards the point of departure. To your surprise, when you exit this hull on the other side, for ease of telling the story let's imagine it's a cylinder with a single entry/exit door that rotates trough space time, and on the other side there is some 'primitive' society having just performed the ritual for summoning you. You are baffled, assuming you were the ones traveling there, but to the contrary, from their point of view, in some kind of weird Einsteinian observer dependent reference frame corollary it is now them having called you over (or maybe they were just blogging, you know). Anyway, how would the idea of property hold up in such a situation, or for that matter, would you switch to the most rigorous Stallmanian interpretations to prevent your intellectual property, I mean the continuity of your effort, being taken over by some alien fiction?
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