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| From | D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.written |
| Subject | Re: "After 30 Years, Alarmists Are Still Predicting A Global Warming "Apocalypse" |
| Date | 2017-12-01 16:54 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <20171201b@crcomp.net> (permalink) |
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Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>>On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 10:35:07 PM UTC-7, D B Davis wrote:
>>> Mass media first
>>> promoted a global warming apocalypse at least 143 years ago.
>>
>>That would have been in 1874.
>
> Well, 1896 anyway <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svante_Arrhenius>
>
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts" - Richard Feynman
Almost 40 years ago, Bryson stood before the American Association
for the Advancement of Science and presented a paper saying human
activity could alter climate.
"I was laughed off the platform for saying that," he told
Wisconsin Energy Cooperative News.
In the 1960s, Bryson's idea was widely considered a radical
proposition. But nowadays things have turned almost in the
opposite direction: Hardly a day passes without some authority
figure claiming that whatever the climate happens to be doing,
human activity must be part of the explanation. And once again,
Bryson is challenging the conventional wisdom. ...
Q: Could you rank the things that have the most significant impact
and where would you put carbon dioxide on the list?
A: Well let me give you one fact first. In the first 30 feet of
the atmosphere, on the average, outward radiation from the
Earth, which is what CO2 is supposed to affect, how much [of
the reflected energy] is absorbed by water vapor? In the first
30 feet, 80 percent, okay?
Q: Eighty percent of the heat radiated back from the surface is
absorbed in the first 30 feet by water vapor...
A: And how much is absorbed by carbon dioxide? Eight hundredths
of one percent. One one-thousandth as important as water vapor.
You can go outside and spit and have the same effect as
doubling carbon dioxide.
This begs questions about the widely publicized mathematical
models researchers run through supercomputers to generate climate
scenarios 50 or 100 years in the future. Bryson says the data fed
into the computers overemphasizes carbon dioxide and accounts
poorly for the effects of clouds - water vapor. Asked to evaluate
the models' long-range predictive ability, he answers with another
question: "Do you believe a five-day forecast?"
https://web.archive.org/web/20070508023151/http://wecnmagazine.com/2007issues/may/may07.html
Thank you,
--
Don
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