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Re: Systemd fun fun fun

From Joe <joe@jretrading.com>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux.debian, alt.os.linux, alt.comp.freeware
Subject Re: Systemd fun fun fun
Date 2017-01-29 09:01 +0000
Organization JRE Trading Ltd
Message-ID <20170129090149.5d333f76@jresid.jretrading.com> (permalink)
References (3 earlier) <87shscxe1z.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> <o6ideq$f49$1@gioia.aioe.org> <o6ipe8$tt7$1@dont-email.me> <20170128221349.52123fc4@jresid.jretrading.com> <o6k3uk$e1a$1@dont-email.me>

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On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 07:00:37 -0000 (UTC)
William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

> On 2017-01-28, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 18:55:04 -0000 (UTC)
> > William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
> >  
> >> On 2017-01-28, Innocuous <myemail6622@yahoo.com> wrote:  
> >> > On 10/04/2016 12:40 PM, Ivan Shmakov wrote:    
> >> >>>>>>> Yrrah <Yrrah-acf@acf.invalid> writes:    
> >> >    
> >> >>   Broken by design: systemd
> >> >>   http://ewontfix.com/14
> >> >>
> >> >> 	I think these provide nice summaries on what to expect
> >> >> of this specific part of the "modern" GNU/Linux system design.
> >> >>    
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I do not like systemd. I've changed over to using Devuan.
> >> > The concept of systemd is wrong in my view.    
> >> Not sure the concept is wrong. Fast booting is a good idea. The
> >> implimentation has problems.  
> >
> > As was said, parallel booting appeared some time before systemd, in
> > sid, at least.
> >
> > Fast booting would be nice, but I'll believe it when I see it. Some
> > months ago, to add insult to injury, grub started adding about a
> > ten-second timeout ('Press any key..') before loading the initrd,
> > and I still haven't found how to stop that, other than hovering
> > over it waiting to hit a key. It ought to be something simple....   
> 
> Nothing to do with systemd. 

I wasn't suggesting that it was, just that systemd doesn't
automatically deliver a fast boot, and this phenomenon has slowed it
even more unless I give it a kick.

> Edit the line in /boot/grub2/
> set timeout=
> to whatever you want. I have mine at 5 so I can if I wish boot
> windows. But make it whatever you want. 
> 
> >  

Possibly it is only in sid so far.

My grub timeout is on 5 and works as expected.

In recent months, the *next* screen says 'loading ramdisc' or similar,
followed by 'press any key' and sits there for ten seconds or so if I
don't press a key. I haven't found anything anywhere which seems to
refer to this.

-- 
Joe

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Re: [OT] Systemd fun fun fun Yrrah <Yrrah-acf@acf.invalid> - 2016-10-02 15:52 +0200
  Re: [OT] Systemd fun fun fun "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2016-10-02 16:41 +0200
    Re: [OT] Systemd fun fun fun "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 22:43 +0800
      Re: [OT] Systemd fun fun fun "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2016-10-02 18:17 +0200
        Re: [OT] Systemd fun fun fun "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 00:24 +0800
  Re: [OT] Systemd fun fun fun Yrrah <Yrrah-acf@acf.invalid> - 2016-10-02 20:10 +0200
    Re: Systemd fun fun fun Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2016-10-04 16:40 +0000
      Re: Systemd fun fun fun Yrrah <Yrrah-acf@acf.invalid> - 2016-10-04 19:06 +0200
        Re: Systemd fun fun fun Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2016-10-04 17:20 +0000
          Re: Systemd fun fun fun Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2016-10-18 11:45 +0000
      Re: Systemd fun fun fun Innocuous <myemail6622@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-28 10:30 -0500
        Re: Systemd fun fun fun William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-01-28 18:55 +0000
          Re: Systemd fun fun fun "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-01-28 22:23 +0100
          Re: Systemd fun fun fun Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-01-28 22:13 +0000
            Re: Systemd fun fun fun Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-28 22:29 +0000
            Re: Systemd fun fun fun "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2017-01-29 02:43 +0100
              Re: Systemd fun fun fun Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-01-29 09:01 +0000
                Re: Systemd fun fun fun "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-01-29 12:40 +0100
                Re: Systemd fun fun fun Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-01-29 19:07 +0000
                Re: Systemd fun fun fun "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-01-29 20:50 +0100
                [A BIT SOLVED]Re: Systemd fun fun fun Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-01-29 20:13 +0000
                Re: Systemd fun fun fun "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2017-01-30 04:23 +0100
                Re: Systemd fun fun fun Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-01-30 08:38 +0000
                Re: Systemd fun fun fun "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2017-01-30 14:12 +0100
                Re: Systemd fun fun fun Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-01-30 15:05 +0000
                Re: Systemd fun fun fun "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2017-01-30 11:53 -0600
              Re: Systemd fun fun fun Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2017-01-29 11:38 -0200
                Re: Systemd fun fun fun Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-01-29 19:54 -0500
            Re: Systemd fun fun fun William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-01-29 07:00 +0000
              Re: Systemd fun fun fun Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-01-29 09:01 +0000
          Re: Systemd fun fun fun Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2017-01-29 15:49 +0000
        Re: Systemd fun fun fun "Chester A. Arthur" <deadprez@whitehouse.com> - 2017-01-28 14:06 -0600
          Re: Systemd fun fun fun senior-student <senior-student@fakemail.net> - 2017-01-28 21:27 +0000

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