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Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!!

From Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!!
Date 2016-11-14 01:49 -0500
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 23:01:36 -0500
rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/12/2016 6:01 PM, WJ wrote:
> > mentificium@gmail.com wrote:

> >> It is unthinkable that a sexual
> >> predator like Donald "Grab 'em by
> >> the pussy" Trump will actually take
> >> office,  
> >
> > Liar.
> >
> > Many, if not most, men talk that way in locker rooms.  Not being a
> > man, you wouldn't know that.  
> 
> Uh, what Trump talked about was not just "locker room" talk of what
> he *wanted* to do to women, but what he *had* done to women.  BIG 
> difference.  Many women have already come out to accuse him of
> exactly these criminal acts.
> 

If I had said much the same in regards to Bill Clinton, and I do
believe that I could justifiably say the EXACT same thing about Bill
Clinton, you (and any other liberal or progressive for that matter)
would say:

1) it was just boastful talk
2) there is no proof he has done anything
3) his accusers are liars and profiteers
4) he's not a criminal until charged and found guilty
5) he's the victim of a vast conspiracy from the opposite side

So, I don't believe there is any real point to your counter-point to
WJ.  You're entitled to your opinion, but it's bigoted and
hypocritical, since you don't also find fault with Bill Clinton for the
exact same thing.

> > Clinton, who is apparently a serial rapist, has already
> > held office.
> >
> > Why aren't you whining about that?  You have no morals
> > and no honesty whatsoever.  
> 
> If he is a rapist, why hasn't he been charged?

Conservatives would say, "cover-up."  Liberals would say, "debunked" or
"no evidence."

> Trump has been accused

And, Bill Clinton has numerous accusers too.  Why do you believe
Trump's accusers, but not Clinton's?  That would seem to be the key
issue here.  Even Hillary, who is widely believed to have been involved
in numerous sex scandal cover-ups for Bill, said, "“I want to send a
message to every survivor of sexual assault: Don’t let anyone silence
your voice. You have the right to be heard. You have the right to be
believed, and we’re with you.”  Of course, in an apparent admission of
her guilt, Hillary's campaign removed those words when a few Bill's
past accusers came out of the woodwork.

> >>         even after stealing the
> >> election from the winner of the
> >> popular vote.  
> >
> > The powers that be used massive vote-fraud against Trump.
> > It has been well known for years that vote-scamming
> > is common in America.  
> 
> Really?  Why is it there is no evidence?

The media wanted Hillary to win so badly, that the media repeatedly
made the following false claims:

1) Hillary was in the lead by a wide or substantial margin
2) Hillary's rallies weren't empty, but packed
3) Trump had almost no path to victory
4) Hillary had the minority vote and millennial vote
5) Trump supporters were ignorant, blue-collar workers

It can be reasonably argued that the overwhelming expectation that
Hillary would win suppressed Trump voter turnout, i.e., giving them no
reason to vote when Trump was so far behind. Now, to be fair, I also
happen to believe that the media lies also suppressed Hillary voter
turnout too, i.e., giving them no reason to vote when she was so far in
the lead.  Personally, I think Hillary may have won without the media
interference, even with some additional voters supporting Trump.  The
numbers of potential voters are heavily on her side, like 8% more.

Given the media suppression of voters, I believe that the "Comey
effect" boosted Trump's voters and reduced Hillary's, but that Trump
still would've won without the "Comey effect," albeit just barely.

> If there is evidence, why
> has nothing been done to charge those who are guilty?  I expect you
> will talk about how the conspiracy is too big... funny how it didn't
> result in Hillary winning...

As stated above, I think Hillary might've won, under the correct
circumstances.

> >> There is such a storm
> >> of nationwide protest coming  
> >
> > "nationwide"?  The USA is obviously not a nation.
> > A nation is composed of people who are genetically
> > similar.  
> 
> ???

Does WJ hail from Germany? e.g., Nazi's wanted a pure race nation.

> > "I would hesitate to describe America as a nation at all in 1997,
> > because it is something very different: a polyethnic federation
> > administered by a single ruling class....  [T]he accumulated rot in
> > America has now reached a point where the pillars of society itself
> > are failing."  --- Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
> >
> > Most of the protesting will be orchestrated by Jews.  
> 
> Oh yes, I forgot how insane you are...

The billionaire George Soros is a Jew.  He is known to instigate
revolutions which have actually overthrown governments.  I'm not sure
whom the other Jews are to which WJ is referring, but you can find many
wealthy Jews in U.S. industries like media, newspapers, Hollywood, and
diamonds.  So, it's really not so far fetched that this is just
conspiracy talk.  Are some of the other billionaires who supported
Hillary Jewish?  Yes, they are.  Of the billionaire's listed by Fortune
as supporting Hillary, six out of twelve (or 50%) are Jewish: George
Soros, Michael Bloomberg, Sheryl Sandberg, Seth Klarman, Haim Saban,
and J.B. Pritzker.  Now, I'm not saying any of this to promote hatred or
anti-Semitism, as just as many non-Jewish billionaires supported
Hillary in that article, but clearly, you must admit that there is some
trivial correlation.  Only 2.2% of the U.S. population is Jewish.


Rod Pemberton

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TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!! polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 21:05 -0800
  Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!! mentificium@gmail.com - 2016-11-10 21:39 -0800
    Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!! polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 22:31 -0800
    Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!! "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-12 23:01 +0000
      Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 23:01 -0500
        Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2016-11-14 01:49 -0500
          Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 02:29 -0500
            Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2016-11-14 16:44 -0500
              Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 18:01 -0500
        Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!! polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 00:28 -0800
    Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!! mentificium@gmail.com - 2016-11-14 20:00 -0800
  Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!! polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 18:30 -0800
    Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!! JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2016-12-01 09:49 -0800
      Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!! polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 21:27 -0800
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      Re: TRUMP oh yeahehaheah!!!! Rob Sciuk <rob@controlq.com> - 2016-12-08 12:14 -0500

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