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Re: Linux Technology

From Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Linux Technology
Date 2016-04-28 05:12 +0200
Organization albasani.net
Message-ID <20160428051228.28f13c94@maxa-pc> (permalink)
References <dodb7oF9pplU2@mid.individual.net> <D346C7EC.712CE%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <20160428045611.49ea1294@maxa-pc> <D346CBC5.712D9%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>

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On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 20:04:21 -0700
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 4/27/16, 7:56 PM, in article 20160428045611.49ea1294@maxa-pc,
> "Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:47:56 -0700
> > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> On 4/27/16, 7:35 PM, in article dodb7oF9pplU2@mid.individual.net,
> >> "vallor" <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
> >>   
> >>> I miss the files in /proc/X/fd being hard links to the files they
> >>> refer to, instead of symlinks.
> >>> 
> >>> In the old days, they were hard links, so you could rescue a file
> >>> that had been deleted, just as long as a process still had the
> >>> file open.
> >>> 
> >>> Still, /proc/X/fd is a handy feature to have, whether accessed
> >>> from the command line or the gui.  
> >> 
> >> Not familiar with this. Can you give an example of how you might
> >> use it?  
> > 
> > This is useful when referring file that changed name/moved under the
> > hood. That is to find out new name...
> > This information is lost when closing fd.
> > On OSX one can refer file by inode (.vol filesystem), though, which
> > is much more powerful.  
> 
> Fair enough... thanks. Still does not give me a full understanding
> but at least is a start. Also, I think, ties into what I show here:
> <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>.

On OSX one can refer file by inode. On Linux file name is used, but
program can use /proc/self/fd/.. to determine new name (which isn't
used by LO obviously). Yes, that's that.

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Linux Technology vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 02:35 +0000
  Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-27 19:47 -0700
    Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-28 04:56 +0200
      Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-27 20:04 -0700
        Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-28 05:12 +0200
          Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-27 20:43 -0700
            Re: Linux Technology Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-28 09:59 +0000
      Re: Linux Technology Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-28 09:33 +0000
        Re: Linux Technology Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 04:15 -0700
          Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-28 13:50 +0200
            Re: Linux Technology Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 16:20 +0100
              Shut up rodent, Tricks are for Kids, NOT rabbits John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 12:31 -0700
              Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-28 23:16 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 15:58 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 09:30 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-29 10:24 +0100
                Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 13:25 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-04-29 17:06 -0600
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 02:14 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 02:28 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 02:58 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 03:15 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 03:37 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 04:00 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 04:39 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-30 13:29 +0000
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 15:51 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-30 14:10 +0000
                Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-30 09:47 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 18:34 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-04-30 17:21 -0600
                Re: Linux Technology GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-04-30 17:23 -0600
                Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-30 19:33 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 09:20 -0400
                Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 15:44 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 08:32 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 12:07 -0400
                Re: Linux Technology Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 09:13 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 18:50 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 13:41 -0400
                Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 18:24 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-29 22:09 +0000
                Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 18:58 -0400
                Re: Linux Technology Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-29 23:26 +0000
                Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:40 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 22:51 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-01 16:11 -0400
                Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 00:07 +0200
            Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-18 17:01 -0400
              Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-18 23:30 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-28 10:10 -0400
                Re: Linux Technology JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-06-01 22:00 -0500
                Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-06-02 00:02 -0400
                Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-06-01 21:28 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 10:29 -0700
  Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-28 05:07 +0200
    Re: Linux Technology vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 03:33 +0000
  Re: Linux Technology vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 03:13 +0000
    Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-27 20:42 -0700
  Re: Linux Technology John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 02:42 -0700
  Re: Linux Technology John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 02:43 -0700

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