Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.sys.mac.system > #58344

Re: Simple Photoshop question )clone tool)

From Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Message-ID <2014040516594735299-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> (permalink)
References <533e810a$0$7173$c3e8da3$76a7c58f@news.astraweb.com> <2014040514180516201-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> <53408d7d$0$61212$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>
Subject Re: Simple Photoshop question )clone tool)
Organization http://www.panic.com/unison/
Date 2014-04-05 16:59 -0700

Show all headers | View raw


On 2014-04-05 23:10:52 +0000, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> said:

> On 14-04-05 17:18, Savageduck wrote:
> 
>> What version of PS are you using?
> 
> CS6
> 
>> There is a reason why PS provides several tools for doing this type of
>> edit. (clone tool, patch tool, healing brush, spot healing brush,
> 
> 
> Clone tool has worked well in the past. But for that and a couple of
> other images, I can't seem to be able to clone at the same darkness as
> the source.
> 
> 
>> In the case of your scanned image where you have grain on a color field
>> with the added complication of a gradient, I would work on the current
>> layer only.
> 
> I almost always work on current layer only. (for cloning)
> 
> 
>> Since you have a gradient, consider an area to the left or right of the
>> area you want to fix as a source.
> 
> I select the area immediatly to the left of the hole to be filled. And
> when filled, it does not match the area immediatly to its left (aka: the
> source).

Did you have opacity and flow set at 100%, and blending mode normal?

> In the past, I never had that problem and could succesfully propagate a
> texture from one area to the next without any visible signs.

As it should. Using the spot healing tool, and sometimes the clone tool 
has the potential to smooth a texture or grain which might be treated 
as a blemish.

> DOes the clone took have problem with 16 bit images ?

It shouldn't.

> Just realised this is what is different between my current endeavour 
> and previous
> photoshop uses.
> 
> Note that on some scanned images, the clone tool appears to work fine.
> 
> These are old Kodachrome slides and the scanning generates a lot of
> grain because of the darkness of the faded slides.

That should just appear as a texture which should be subject to CS6 
manipulation.

>> Select a source area which includes a decent portion of the major
>> demarkation change in the grad.
> 
> For a sky, the graduation is very progressive. The clone stamped area is
> lighter than the source and the area around it, not just the source.
> 
> I'll have to experiment with mam,ing image 8 bits to see if the clone
> tool works as before.>

I would give the patch tool a try. Just remember, that with the patch 
tool you select the area to be patched and then drag the selection to 
the source.

> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_638.jpg >
> 
> Was the diagonal line a fold in the paper picture ? What about the
> roughly horizontal lighter band ? What caused that ?

I can't speak for the original. It is a shot of my *step-daughter from 
Hell* taken by a photographer unknown to me with an unknown 35mm. 
Probably some 15+ years ago.
She inflicted the crease & tear damage with her storage method (dumped 
in a shoe box mixed in with other shots & stirred). I think the banding 
and washed out color are a result of a poor wet lab print on 
questionable paper with some sun exposure at one time or another. She 
never had the negative/transparency.
Naturally I was tasked with fixing it.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

Back to comp.sys.mac.system | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

Simple  Photoshop question )clone tool) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-04 05:53 -0400
  Re: Simple  Photoshop question )clone tool) M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2014-04-04 10:05 -0400
  Re: Simple  Photoshop question )clone tool) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-04-05 14:18 -0700
    Re: Simple  Photoshop question )clone tool) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-05 19:10 -0400
      Re: Simple  Photoshop question )clone tool) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-04-05 16:59 -0700
      Re: Simple  Photoshop question )clone tool) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-08 03:33 -0400
        Re: Simple  Photoshop question )clone tool) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-04-08 06:02 -0700
          Re: Simple  Photoshop question )clone tool) Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-04-08 12:55 -0400
            Re: Simple  Photoshop question )clone tool) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-04-08 13:51 -0700
  Re: Simple  Photoshop question )clone tool) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-07 09:09 +1200

csiph-web