Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.lang.c > #41597

Re: c prog -plz explain

From Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: c prog -plz explain
Date 2014-03-11 07:12 +0000
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <20140310235955.176@kylheku.com> (permalink)
References <71fb68ed-69a6-42da-b988-520f9c400ff4@googlegroups.com> <lnvbvlsmm0.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> <0.09075131e2de08b336cb.20140310232147GMT.87iorly704.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <fb286c5b-c72d-4615-b613-ac1c27f94107@googlegroups.com>

Show all headers | View raw


On 2014-03-11, SAHIL MAHLA <sahilmehla@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes we are converting a int* to double*.Could you generalize this with a rule
> why that is undefined.

Yes. The rule is written in a document called ISO 9899  ("International
Standard -- Programming Languages -- C").

It was first published in 1990 (ISO 9899:1990) and describes a language called C90.
It was updated to ISO 9899:1999 (C99), and 2011 (C11).

If you read the standard, you will learn about all kinds of rules.

It's really too complicated (and more importantly inefficient) to lecture about
in a series of Usenet articles to complete newbies. Why don't you read the document,
and then if you have questions, then it makes for a better discussion
than "spoon feed me the rules", know what I mean?

The rule which applies here is that an object shall not be accessed through an
lvalue which is not its declared type (or a const/volatile qualified version of
its declared type).  An object of type int being accessed as if it were an object
of type double results in undefined behavior.

C is a strongly typed language. It has the concept of type: that an operation
of the correct type must be applied to a datum for well-defined behavior. C has
considerable translation-time type checking in it to support its type system,
but when you use casts, especially for conversions among pointer types, you can
defeat the type system and write programs which break the rules, but do not
produce any diagnostics when compiled, and even make an executable.

Back to comp.lang.c | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

c prog -plz explain SAHIL MAHLA <sahilmehla@gmail.com> - 2014-03-10 14:50 -0700
  Re: c prog -plz explain Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-03-10 15:41 -0700
    Re: c prog -plz explain Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-03-10 23:21 +0000
      Re: c prog -plz explain Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-03-10 23:24 +0000
      Re: c prog -plz explain SAHIL MAHLA <sahilmehla@gmail.com> - 2014-03-10 20:28 -0700
        Re: c prog -plz explain James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-03-11 00:15 -0400
        Re: c prog -plz explain Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-03-11 07:12 +0000
          Re: c prog -plz explain Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2014-03-12 10:43 +0100
            Re: c prog -plz explain Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-03-12 14:38 +0000
              Re: c prog -plz explain Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2014-03-12 15:56 +0100
                Re: c prog -plz explain Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-03-12 11:16 -0400
                Re: c prog -plz explain James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-03-12 11:36 -0400
                Re: c prog -plz explain Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-03-12 15:38 +0000
              Re: c prog -plz explain glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-03-12 19:13 +0000
                Re: c prog -plz explain Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-03-12 16:05 -0400
                Re: c prog -plz explain James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-03-12 16:32 -0400
                Re: c prog -plz explain Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-13 09:38 +1300
                Re: c prog -plz explain Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2014-03-29 08:32 -0700
            Re: c prog -plz explain glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-03-12 19:03 +0000
              Re: c prog -plz explain James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-03-12 15:33 -0400
                Re: c prog -plz explain Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-03-12 20:56 +0000
                Re: c prog -plz explain Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-13 10:07 +1300
        Re: c prog -plz explain "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2014-03-11 10:33 +0000
  Re: c prog -plz explain Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2014-03-10 18:48 -0400
    Re: c prog -plz explain SAHIL MAHLA <sahilmehla@gmail.com> - 2014-03-10 20:26 -0700
      Re: c prog -plz explain Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-11 16:34 +1300
        typecasting (was Re: c prog -plz explain) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2014-03-12 07:03 +0000
          Re: typecasting (was Re: c prog -plz explain) Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-03-12 07:40 +0000
            Re: typecasting (was Re: c prog -plz explain) Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> - 2014-03-12 10:47 -0400
            Re: typecasting (was Re: c prog -plz explain) Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2014-03-12 13:01 -0400
          Re: typecasting (was Re: c prog -plz explain) Richard <rgrdev_@gmail.com> - 2014-03-12 12:47 +0100
            Re: typecasting (was Re: c prog -plz explain) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2014-03-12 12:39 +0000
              Re: typecasting (was Re: c prog -plz explain) Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-03-12 15:06 +0000
      Re: c prog -plz explain Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-03-11 07:26 +0000
        Re: c prog -plz explain Richard <rgrdev_@gmail.com> - 2014-03-11 08:39 +0100
          Re: c prog -plz explain Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-03-11 08:08 +0000
      Re: c prog -plz explain Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2014-03-11 09:14 -0400
      Re: c prog -plz explain Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-03-11 15:38 +0000
  Re: c prog -plz explain Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2014-03-11 12:53 -0400
    Re: c prog -plz explain Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-03-11 11:47 -0700
      Re: c prog -plz explain glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-03-11 21:41 +0000
        Re: c prog -plz explain Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-03-11 22:01 +0000

csiph-web