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Re: Grammar Gripe

From Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Message-ID <2013122416594891173-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> (permalink)
References (14 earlier) <2013122407594655976-xxx@yyyzzz> <l9cpik$ghc$1@dont-email.me> <251220130936543460%YourName@YourISP.com> <201312241252317392-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> <2013122414151972993-xxx@yyyzzz>
Subject Re: Grammar Gripe
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Date 2013-12-24 16:59 -0800

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On 2013-12-24 22:15:19 +0000, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> said:

> On 2013-12-24 20:52:31 +0000, Savageduck said:
> 
>> Since it is the Christmas season, perhaps we should, "don our gay apparel".
>> 
>> Now there is a word that was hijacked...
> 
> I wonder if  all words that change are "hijacked", or only when one 
> doesn't like the new dad-blamed meaning.

There is legitimate modern word usage. For example, you are not going 
to find too many horse draw cabriolets these days, but the word still 
describes the basic characterizing feature of the vehicle.
I am just surprised that "petard" has yet to find a modern usage.

> Remember when black use to be just a color and not a race, and the race 
> was called "Negro". Remember when "colored" use to be a race?

This is an area where political correctness comes into play, where a 
previously discriminated against, and exploited population are 
struggling to identify themselves and avoid t6he use of the 
stereotyping, pejorative labels of the past. That is somewhat like 
those of us of Anglo-European decent trying to find a label other than 
"whitey", "honkey", "melanin deficient", etc.

>> ...and can annoy folks if used in a context which could lead to 
>> misinterpretation. Perhaps we should refer to the group who hijacked 
>> "gay" as "extraordinarily happy".
>> 
>> "Gay" in its original sense has fallen into archaic disuse, mainly 
>> because the hijacking of the word has made the original use problematic.
> 
> You realize of course that "hijack" is the "politically correct" way to 
> signify "change" if you don't like the change, right?

As opposed to "stolen". Let's see what they do with metamorphose.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-21 11:21 -0800
  Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-21 21:09 +0000
    Re: Grammar Gripe Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-21 13:15 -0800
    Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-21 13:41 -0800
      Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-21 13:54 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-22 11:21 +1300
          Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-21 18:36 -0800
            Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-22 16:45 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-22 23:35 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 00:44 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-23 23:47 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-22 21:58 -0800
            Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-23 09:13 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-24 16:45 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-22 23:38 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-22 21:58 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-23 19:09 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-23 09:05 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-23 18:58 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 14:06 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-23 18:36 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 18:14 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 07:56 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 09:14 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:19 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-24 17:45 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2013-12-25 01:43 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-25 08:58 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 00:29 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 18:51 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 00:59 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 19:14 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 07:59 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 12:07 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 09:36 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 12:52 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-24 16:31 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-24 17:11 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:49 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-24 23:56 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:15 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 16:59 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:22 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe "Ed H." <fake@notreal.net> - 2013-12-27 13:30 -0600
                Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-12-24 22:02 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:20 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 07:58 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-24 12:47 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-24 13:09 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 12:09 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 12:18 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 09:38 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-24 17:18 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:52 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-24 18:44 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 17:03 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:24 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-24 23:05 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:50 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-25 13:28 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 15:52 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 13:54 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 17:10 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:26 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-12-25 04:34 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:52 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 21:34 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-24 15:16 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:11 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-26 19:00 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-27 08:20 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-27 10:48 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-27 18:52 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-28 10:20 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:50 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-28 09:27 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:51 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-28 13:07 -0800
                Re: Semantics Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-29 18:17 +0100
                Re: Semantics Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-29 12:34 -0500
                Re: Semantics Gripe Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-29 14:53 -0800
                Re: Semantics Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-29 10:56 -0800
                Re: Semantics Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-29 21:55 +0100
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:04 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-26 16:28 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-24 18:22 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-25 00:02 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 13:15 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-26 23:30 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-27 10:51 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-27 18:36 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-27 21:08 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-24 18:03 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-01 17:55 +1100
                Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-01 11:41 -0700
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-01 11:29 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-02 09:10 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-01 13:49 -0700
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-01 15:38 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-02 13:16 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-01 17:31 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-02 09:10 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-02 11:47 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-02 22:17 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-02 15:29 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-02 18:33 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-01 13:46 -0700
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-01 15:41 -0800
            Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-23 23:42 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 08:03 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe bob <rcp27g@gmail.com> - 2013-12-22 10:49 +0000
          Re: Grammar Gripe "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-12-22 16:54 +0000
          Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-26 10:37 +1100
            Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-26 18:32 +1300
              Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-26 05:36 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-26 09:30 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-31 18:35 +1300
        Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-23 10:59 +1100
      Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-22 11:34 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 00:45 -0500
    Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-22 04:58 +0000
  Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-21 20:11 -0500
  Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-12-22 15:43 +0000
    Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-22 11:53 -0500
      Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-22 22:35 +0000
        Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-22 18:08 -0500
          Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-23 09:07 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-23 04:12 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-23 15:15 +0000
              Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-23 15:39 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-23 18:46 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 21:03 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-24 04:52 -0500
        Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-22 22:02 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 01:04 -0500
          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-23 19:41 +1300
          Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-23 11:27 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-23 09:55 -0800
            Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-23 13:33 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 21:05 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 21:04 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-23 18:40 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 22:19 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-24 10:15 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 08:01 -0800
      Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-22 15:10 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-22 18:23 -0500
          Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-22 15:29 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 00:49 -0500
          Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-23 02:35 -0500
  Re: Grammar Gripe Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-22 10:32 -0600
    Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-22 12:36 -0500
    Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-22 11:40 -0800
      Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-22 16:06 -0500
        Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-22 15:18 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-22 23:41 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-23 09:26 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-23 18:47 +0000
          Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-23 23:39 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 00:46 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 19:10 +1300
              Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-25 04:34 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-25 14:17 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-25 18:36 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-26 01:18 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-26 07:59 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-26 05:41 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-26 09:53 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-26 21:27 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-27 02:06 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Joe W DiDomenico <joedid@outlook.com> - 2013-12-27 08:03 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-27 10:43 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-26 19:16 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Joe W DiDomenico <joedid@outlook.com> - 2013-12-27 08:04 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 20:00 +1000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-04-19 10:42 -0700
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-26 09:52 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-26 10:44 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-26 10:00 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2013-12-27 13:22 +0200
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-27 10:18 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-12-27 15:57 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2013-12-27 18:34 +0200
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-27 12:43 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-28 14:41 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 11:00 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 10:57 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-28 09:11 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 14:18 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Joe Di Domenico <joedid@email.com> - 2013-12-28 14:46 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2013-12-31 11:54 +0200
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 10:47 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-31 14:13 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 20:04 +1000
                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-19 15:55 -0400
                Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-19 21:20 +0100
                Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-19 17:21 -0400
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-04-19 17:22 -0700
                Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-04-20 03:16 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-20 00:00 -0400
                Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-19 08:40 -0400
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-04-19 10:54 -0400
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 20:02 +1000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-19 08:34 -0400
                Re: Grammar Gripe billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-19 15:09 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-20 08:51 +1000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-04-19 22:37 -0400
                Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-20 12:36 +0200
                Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-04-20 07:03 -0700
                Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-20 17:33 +0200
                Re: Grammar Gripe Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-04-21 07:57 -0400
                Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-20 03:23 +0200
                Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-04-20 03:11 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-27 09:35 -0400
                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-19 15:51 -0400
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-26 15:56 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-26 17:07 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-27 12:05 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-27 21:52 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Joe W DiDomenico <joedid@outlook.com> - 2013-12-28 09:48 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:47 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-26 09:48 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-27 09:38 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 19:59 +1000
              Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 19:58 +1000
            Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-23 22:18 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 04:06 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-12-24 14:19 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-24 10:17 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 08:03 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-24 13:14 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-24 20:01 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-24 15:19 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 12:14 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-24 16:05 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 15:55 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 13:07 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 17:08 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:25 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-28 14:46 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 09:11 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 20:54 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-24 13:00 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 10:21 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 12:12 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 09:40 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 13:37 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-25 04:42 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-24 16:20 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 09:49 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-24 19:59 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-24 15:38 -0600
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 21:04 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-24 20:03 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-25 10:53 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-25 11:17 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 19:55 +1000
              Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-19 13:42 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-04-19 06:52 -0700
                Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-20 09:24 +1000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-04-19 22:35 -0400
                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-19 23:56 -0400
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-04-19 21:02 -0700
                Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-04-19 21:16 -0700
                Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-20 13:43 +0100
          Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-28 16:34 +1100
            Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-28 18:39 +1300
            Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:45 -0800
            Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-28 14:57 -0800
      Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-22 23:36 +0100
        Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-22 22:54 +0000
          Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-23 03:20 +0100
            Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-22 22:07 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-23 09:56 +0100
                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-23 04:10 -0500
    Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-22 11:45 -0800
    Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-22 23:38 +0000
    Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 00:50 -0500
    Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-28 16:24 +1100
      Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-28 08:55 +0000
        Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-28 04:27 -0500
          Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-28 10:09 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe Joe W DiDomenico <joedid@outlook.com> - 2013-12-28 09:39 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:37 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-29 08:18 +1100
                Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-28 22:36 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-29 15:07 +1100
              Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-28 17:27 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 04:24 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-30 17:34 +1100
                Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-30 10:04 +0100
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 10:31 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-30 19:25 +0100
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 13:56 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 11:48 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-02 15:10 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-01-03 01:21 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-02 21:21 -0500
          Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:34 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-28 22:17 +1100
        Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 11:06 -0500
          Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-28 09:15 -0800
            Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-29 09:42 +1300
            Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 16:08 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-28 14:01 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 17:49 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 18:04 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 19:06 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 22:17 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 22:38 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-29 01:12 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 21:41 -0800
            Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 04:27 +0000
              Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 00:51 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-30 01:54 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 11:57 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-30 07:39 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-30 08:55 -0700
                Re: Grammar Gripe JoeWolfDee <joedid@email.com> - 2013-12-30 11:13 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-30 17:11 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-30 18:29 -0700
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-30 17:32 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-31 15:56 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-30 21:32 -0700
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 20:44 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-31 18:25 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 22:41 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 10:41 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-31 15:27 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-31 14:42 -0700
                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-31 02:33 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 10:42 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-01 09:50 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-31 14:24 -0700
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 14:51 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-31 17:09 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-01 09:34 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-10 18:16 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-31 13:04 +0100
                Re: Grammar Gripe Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2013-12-31 03:03 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 20:44 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-10 18:20 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-11 16:17 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-31 18:29 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 10:46 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-31 14:31 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 12:42 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-30 09:27 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-30 19:29 +0100
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 11:52 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-30 16:12 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 17:53 +0000
          Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-29 08:01 +1100
      Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 05:31 -0500
        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:39 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 14:38 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 12:55 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-29 10:28 +1300
              Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 17:59 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-28 18:58 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 23:26 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 21:46 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-29 01:21 -0500
      Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-28 09:23 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-29 08:44 +1100
      Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 04:22 +0000
        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-29 21:13 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-30 00:21 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-29 22:44 -0700
            Re: Grammar Gripe Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-29 21:49 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-30 09:26 +0000
          Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 12:14 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-30 09:23 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 12:51 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-30 16:11 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 21:13 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 11:54 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-30 17:26 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-30 22:41 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-30 18:11 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-30 23:25 +0000
        Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-29 22:37 -0700
          Re: Uniqueness Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-31 13:21 +0100
            Re: Uniqueness gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 10:52 -0800
            Re: Uniqueness Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-31 14:47 -0700
              Re: Uniqueness gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 14:55 -0800
              Re: Uniqueness Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2014-01-01 00:32 +0100
  Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-22 23:33 +0100
  Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-23 10:57 +1100
  Re: Grammar Gripe bob <rcp27g@gmail.com> - 2013-12-23 00:00 +0000
  Re: Grammar Gripe RonTheGuy@null.invalid (Ron) - 2013-12-27 21:36 -0800
    Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-28 18:55 +1300

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