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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

From duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Newsgroups alt.atheism, rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.
Date 2015-06-06 11:56 -0500
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On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 17:39:26 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>On 06/05/2015 02:03 PM, duke wrote:
>> There is no salvation described in the OT.

>That's because there's nothing to be saved FROM in the OT.  It's only in 
>the NT that Jesus says, "Nice soul you got there, be a shame if it 
>caught on fire...forever."

Jesus is the only way to the Father.  Those who died in the righteousness of God
before the cross were raised en mass with the arrival of the cross.  

the dukester, American-American

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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 12:16 -0700
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-02 18:05 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 22:08 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 22:52 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-03 06:08 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-03 10:25 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 07:25 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-03 18:16 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 03:58 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 13:33 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-03 17:29 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 23:48 +0200
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:53 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 03:14 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:52 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gray <savagegraycork@friends.gsl> - 2015-06-06 12:58 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:35 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:08 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:09 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 08:42 -0400
                For some, "God" is their hero, their aspiration, the dream. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-07 07:12 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:38 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:21 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 08:53 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 11:06 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:50 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-08 00:17 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 19:07 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:38 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:30 +0200
                Besides me, no one here has defined the word "God". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-07 07:53 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:02 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 18:37 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-04 03:57 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:55 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:54 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:47 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:53 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-06 20:25 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:12 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 06:53 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:01 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:54 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:52 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:27 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:22 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:55 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:54 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-07 18:10 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-07 18:57 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 11:30 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 17:07 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:58 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-05 22:28 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:54 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-06 13:14 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:15 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:03 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:40 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:35 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 21:32 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:34 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 16:26 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 18:34 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 21:19 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:59 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 18:35 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:56 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 10:52 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 20:01 +0200
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 13:32 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 23:56 +0200
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 18:06 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-04 12:53 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 11:35 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:03 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:39 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 13:26 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-06 04:42 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 14:18 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:04 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:57 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:56 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-06 13:15 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 19:53 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-05 13:39 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 05:58 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:07 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-06-05 17:46 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:05 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:33 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:58 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 03:45 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 12:00 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:19 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:20 -0500
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:48 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:38 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:04 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:34 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:21 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:02 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:01 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:44 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 12:01 -0500
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