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Re: newsreaders again

From Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject Re: newsreaders again
Date 2015-04-19 17:05 -0700
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <190420151705324240%michelle@michelle.org> (permalink)
References (5 earlier) <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504191046440.57809@mako.ath.cx> <190420150920088732%michelle@michelle.org> <190420151817042257%timstreater@greenbee.net> <190420151030030465%michelle@michelle.org> <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504191721040.57809@mako.ath.cx>

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In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504191721040.57809@mako.ath.cx>, David
Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

> > I think he means that there were more than 100,000 usenet forgeries 
> > of his name.  I've been posting to usenet since early 1990, and I 
> > doubt that I've posted anywhere near that number of messages, and 
> > the number of forgeries of my posts have been less than a dozen.
> 
> No, Michelle, these weren't impersonations.  My email address was 
> _forged_ into the From, X-Cancelled-By and/or Sender headers, in 
> various attacks on the network's infrastructure, using NewsAgent 
> spamware.

That is impersonation.

> These included attacks, which used supersede and replace legitimate
> articles with either spam or gibberish.  There were hundreds of such
> attacks on Usenet, from the late 1990s, through the early 2000s.

Oh, you dropped from 100,000 to hundreds; quite a discrepancy there.

> > Even if he has been forged that number of times, his PGP signing 
> > doesn't solve anything because hardly anyone else is using PGP, so 
> > his PGP signature is meaningless.
> 
> To those who do not use PGP, it may not provide the service it does to 
> me.

It doesn't provide any service to you if those reading the messages
don't use PGP to validate the PGP signature.

> When replying to your message, I modified quotation notation, line 
> wrapping the formatting of the message attributions.  This is hardly 
> unusual, but I've never whined about it.  I just do it

And you wound up with what is essentially the internet standard way of
replying.

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newsreaders again Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-16 21:54 +0000
  Re: newsreaders again gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-16 15:12 -0700
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      Re: newsreaders again georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) - 2015-04-18 10:41 +0200
  Re: newsreaders again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-16 22:14 +0000
    Re: newsreaders again Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-17 21:48 +0000
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  Re: newsreaders again AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-16 18:15 -0400
    Re: newsreaders again Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-17 21:48 +0000
  Re: newsreaders again David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-16 18:58 -0500
    Re: newsreaders again Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-17 21:48 +0000
      Re: newsreaders again erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-19 19:28 -0500
        Re: newsreaders again David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-19 21:29 -0500
    Re: newsreaders again John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-18 14:58 -0700
      Re: newsreaders again David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-18 18:58 -0500
        Re: newsreaders again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-18 17:30 -0700
        Re: newsreaders again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-19 02:28 +0000
        Re: newsreaders again John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-19 08:22 -0700
          Re: newsreaders again David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-19 11:12 -0500
            Re: newsreaders again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 09:20 -0700
              Re: newsreaders again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-19 16:31 +0000
                Re: newsreaders again Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-19 12:41 -0400
                Re: newsreaders again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 09:46 -0700
                Re: newsreaders again Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-19 15:16 -0400
                Re: newsreaders again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-19 20:14 +0000
                Re: newsreaders again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-19 19:38 +0000
                Re: newsreaders again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-19 19:34 +0000
              Re: newsreaders again Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-19 18:17 +0100
                Re: newsreaders again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 10:30 -0700
                Re: newsreaders again jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 05:56 +1200
                Re: newsreaders again David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-19 17:44 -0500
                Re: newsreaders again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 00:08 +0000
                Re: newsreaders again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 17:05 -0700
                Re: newsreaders again David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-19 20:02 -0500
                Re: newsreaders again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 18:43 -0700
                Re: newsreaders again Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-19 11:17 -0700
            Re: newsreaders again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-19 16:28 +0000
          Re: newsreaders again Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-19 12:32 -0400
            Re: newsreaders again John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-19 11:19 -0700
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    Re: newsreaders again jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-17 21:11 +1200
      Re: newsreaders again Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-17 21:48 +0000
        Re: newsreaders again dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-18 13:50 +1200
  Re: newsreaders again Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-04-17 12:31 -0400
    Re: newsreaders again sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-17 17:49 +0000
      Re: newsreaders again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-17 19:26 +0000
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      Re: newsreaders again tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.com> - 2015-04-18 14:29 +0000
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