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Re: Sir A. Conan Doyle's influence has been so great ...

From James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
Newsgroups rec.puzzles, sci.lang, alt.usage.english
Subject Re: Sir A. Conan Doyle's influence has been so great ...
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Date 2026-06-06 20:37 +0000
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"HenHanna" <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh> posted:

> >>>  Sir A. Conan Doyle's influence has been so great in
> >>>  detective writing alone that his successors to that
> >>>  realm must needs in self-defence make light of an obligation
> >>>  they cannot wholly deny.
> 
> I thought this contained   a  typo  or   typoes  !!!
> 
> I had to have my teacher (AI)  parse and explain it   to me!

Parsing complex sentences was once one of my hobbies; this
sentence is a real dilly!

First dispose of "needs."  The suffix "-s" looks weird, but is NEITHER
a plural marker nor a verb inflection.  It is an ancient marker that
converts a noun to an adverb; it also occurs in "always."
(Sometimes the "-s" becomes "-ce" as in "once" or "thence.")

I'm not sure how best to treat "make light of."  Is it short for
"make light work of"?

The sentence in question has three clauses:
(1) (influence | has been | great (in | writing))
(2) (successors (to | realm) | (must (make light (of | obligation))))
(3) (they | (cannot deny))

There are TWO "that"s connecting clauses (1) and (2): One connects
the clauses' major predicates; the other connects "realm" back to "writing."
An implicit "that" connects obligation to the 3rd clause.

I think "to that realm" may be incorrect; I prefer "in that realm."

Objections?

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Sir A. Conan Doyle's influence has been so great ... "HenHanna" <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh> - 2026-06-06 14:23 +0000
  Re: Sir A. Conan Doyle's influence has been so great ... James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-06 20:37 +0000
    Re: Sir A. Conan Doyle's influence has been so great ... Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-06-06 23:02 -0400
      Re: Sir A. Conan Doyle's influence has been so great ... James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-07 09:18 +0000
        Re: Sir A. Conan Doyle's influence has been so great ... Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-06-07 05:37 -0400
    Re: Sir A. Conan Doyle's influence has been so great ... Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-06-07 06:29 +0100

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