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Re: Cryptic Clues to the Authorship Puzzle

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I'm delighted that someone resurrected this thread, despite
that the new post did not address the intriguing puzzles.

Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> posted:

> James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
> > Briefly, revealing the secret authorship would have been treason against
> > the person of Elizabetha Dei Gracia Angliae Regina etc. herself.
> > To understand this we must review the politics of Her Majesty's reign.
> >
> > The Pope in Rome had not only excommunicated Queen Elizabeth, but had issued
> > a "fatwa" calling for her to be murdered.
> 
> [Citation needed]
> 
> "Section 3: [...] we do out of the fullness of our apostolic power
> declare the foresaid Elizabeth to be a heretic and favorer of heretics,
> and her adherents in the matters aforesaid to have incurred the sentence
> of anathema and to be cut off from the unity of the body of Christ."
> 
> Not regicide, just excommunication.
> 
> "Section 4. And moreover, we declare her to be deprived of her pretended
> title to the kingdom aforesaid, and of all dominion, dignity and
> privilege whatsoever;"
> 
> Again, not regicide.
> 
> "Section 6: [...] We charge and command all and singular the nobles,
> subjects, peoples and others aforesaid that they do not dare obey her
> orders, mandates and laws. Those who shall act to the contrary we
> include in the like sentence of excommunication."
> 
> Reinforcement that the above isn't regicide, mere excommunication.
> 
> https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/doc/PapalBull1570_M/index.html
> 
> Phil

I am not a professional historian nor do I play one on TV.
If "fatwa" implies an official assassination order written on Vatican
stationery, then my comment may be an exaggeration.

However there appears to be a consensus that Popes at least condoned
and encouraged attempts on Her Majesty's life.

The remainder of this post was copy-pasted from Google's top hits.

In 1570, Pope Pius V issued the papal bull Regnans in Excelsis,
which excommunicated Elizabeth I and effectively gave Catholics
permission to assassinate her. For the Papacy and zealous Catholics,
removing an illegitimate, excommunicated "heretic" queen was viewed
as a holy imperative.

  The Ridolfi Plot (1571): Pope Pius V actively supported a conspiracy
to assassinate Elizabeth, intending to replace her with the Catholic Mary,
Queen of Scots.

The Babington Plot (1586): Pope Sixtus V provided financial and moral backing
for this infamous conspiracy, which also aimed to assassinate Elizabeth and
place Mary on the English throne.

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James

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  Re: Cryptic Clues to the Authorship Puzzle James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-03 07:52 +0000
    Re: Cryptic Clues to the Authorship Puzzle Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2026-03-03 12:28 +0000
      Re: Cryptic Clues to the Authorship Puzzle James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-03 18:45 +0000
      Re: Cryptic Clues to the Authorship Puzzle James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-05 04:02 +0000
        Re: Cryptic Clues to the Authorship Puzzle Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2026-03-05 06:03 +0000
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    Re: Cryptic Clues to the Authorship Puzzle James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-04 05:15 +0000
      Re: Cryptic Clues to the Authorship Puzzle Charlie Roberts <croberts@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 17:48 -0500
        Re: Cryptic Clues to the Authorship Puzzle James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-05 03:54 +0000
  Re: Cryptic Clues to the Authorship Puzzle James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-12 19:22 +0000
    Re: Cryptic Clues to the Authorship Puzzle James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-13 05:35 +0000
    Re: Cryptic Clues to the Authorship Puzzle James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-25 11:19 +0000
      Re: Cryptic Clues to the Authorship Puzzle Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2026-05-19 18:23 +0300
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