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Re: Déjà vu

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Date 2017-01-07 18:41 -0800
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Subject Re: Déjà vu
From "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>

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On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 12:21:50 PM UTC-8, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 3:34:28 AM UTC-8, burs...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Am Freitag, 6. Januar 2017 23:38:04 UTC+1 schrieb John Gabriel:
> > > Actually, WM has some blind spots, ...
> > 
> > Not only WM, also you bird brain Janus Garbriel 
> > brainbrain have are full of blind spots.
> > 
> > And the PDF that WM calls a source book in transfinite
> > is truely not a neutral source, its rather a pile of WMs
> > strange world and his crappy "proof" attempts.
> > 
> > But anyway here is something from another source book:
> > 
> > Galilei never wrote a book on the purely mathematical 
> > aspects of his work, but we find them discussed among 
> > other questions. His pupils Cavalieri and Torricelli 
> > later gave full elaboration to his ideas on problems 
> > dealing with infinitesimaLs (see Selections IV.5, 8, 9). 
> > In the Discorsi of 1638, in which Galilei laid the 
> > foundations of modern mechanics, we see him (as Salviati) 
> > discussing with Simplicio some of the fundamental 
> > difficulties one meets in the concepts of infinite 
> > and infinitesimal. Such difficulties were already 
> > widely discussed in antiquity, and equally among 
> > the scholastic writers. Galilei made some points 
> > clear, such as the difference between actual and 
> > potential infinity and the "equality" in number of 
> > the natural numbers and their squares, which play 
> > an important role in the modern theory of aggregates 
> > as developed by Georg Cantor. The text shows that 
> > Galilei was not afraid of the scholastic "indivisible," 
> > of letting a line segment be an aggregate of infinitely 
> > many points, and of accepting the line continuum as 
> > an actual infinite. 
> > 
> > A Source Book in Mathematics, 1200-1800
> > von D. J. Struik
> > http://press.princeton.edu/titles/2415.html
> 
> Thanks again.   Struik the historian helps remind 
> that the infinitesimal analysis and limits and series 
> were equipped with bumper rails and safety gauges 
> (and rightly) in the formalization of Cauchy/Weierstrass 
> as otherwise about the infinitesimal analysis, the 
> real analysis.
> 
> Calculus (and correspondingly, modern mathematics) 
> isn't the pinnacle of mathematics, concept, or thought:
> it's the manicured lane.
> 
> Please don't feed the trolls, and ignore them as 
> they defecate under the bridge, they choose to 
> live there.  (Euh..., that would better reflect 
> a usual sensitivity to the plight of the destitute, 
> but these trolls are petty monsters tolerated only
> in the interests of free speech.)  Please ignore 
> them and don't reward their cropojectile habits.
> 
> About the learning curve there yet rise above the 
> learning mountains, and it's not the way everyone 
> chooses, but there is a high road, and there's only 
> one way up:  up.
> 
> In continuing metaphor from the foundations, involves 
> all the way from the center of the Earth to the Sun.
> 
> 
> 
> "The text shows that Galilei was not afraid of the 
> scholastic "indivisible," of letting a line segment 
> be an aggregate of infinitely many points, and of 
> accepting the line continuum as an actual infinite."
> 
> Neither was Berkeley.




No, don't reply, 
don't copy what's already been written, 
a proper point only needs to be made once.

He doesn't deserve your attention, 
and we don't deserve your spam.

We already know your opinion.  
It's only necessary to (as you see fit) 
remark on relevant updates or aspects 
of your opinion, otherwise this 
pasting useless replies to each other 
is wasteful garbage and insult to the medium.

That's wasteful garbage
and insult to the medium.




It's like a cry for help, 
wrapped in shit, 
dumped in a paper bag, 
lit on fire on the porch, 
then shitbag there yelling
"bring it in, bring it in".


The "cusp of reason" 
Ancient Greece 
is a bit behind the times 
of our roots of reason 
of Ancient Greece.

What a maroon.

And the Pythagoreans 
would've drowned him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd_41tM6H2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6KS6ofEAjs

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Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-03 07:24 -0800
  Re: Déjà vu Jürgen R. <jurgenr@web.de> - 2017-01-03 18:47 +0100
    Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 11:27 -0800
    Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-04 03:34 -0800
      Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 06:34 -0800
  Re: Déjà vu "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 00:17 +0800
    Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 11:14 -0800
      Re: Déjà vu "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 20:39 +0800
        Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 08:53 -0800
          Re: Déjà vu "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 17:55 +0800
            Re: Déjà vu bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 03:07 -0800
              Re: Déjà vu bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 03:13 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Simon Roberts <retenshun@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 04:03 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 00:54 +0800
                Re: 4-figure tables and geometry "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 00:58 +0800
                Re: 4-figure tables and geometry Apollyon <adravirgo@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 09:01 -0800
                Re: 4-figure tables and geometry "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 12:25 -0800
                Re: 4-figure tables and geometry Peter Percival <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-07 20:36 +0000
                Re: 4-figure tables and geometry "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 12:41 -0800
                Re: 4-figure tables and geometry bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 16:04 -0800
                Re: 4-figure tables and geometry Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-07 23:30 -0600
                Re: 4-figure tables and geometry "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 21:52 +0800
                Re: 4-figure tables and geometry "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 22:06 +0800
            Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 04:44 -0800
    Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-04 14:12 -0800
      Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 14:50 -0800
        Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-05 02:18 -0800
      Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 15:01 -0800
        Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-05 02:19 -0800
          Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 02:21 -0800
            Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-05 02:41 -0800
              Re: Déjà vu bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-01-05 02:47 -0800
              Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 03:00 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-05 04:08 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 08:26 -0800
                My GeoPosition is a point at infinity Vinicius Claudino Ferraz <boralaemcasa@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 16:24 -0800
          Re: Déjà vu bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-01-05 02:36 -0800
            Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-05 02:50 -0800
              Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 03:02 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-05 04:09 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 08:28 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-05 09:00 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 09:15 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-05 11:20 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jürgen R. <jurgenr@web.de> - 2017-01-05 21:53 +0100
                vu uv datum abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com - 2017-01-05 13:06 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 16:33 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 18:41 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-06 02:20 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jürgen R. <jurgenr@web.de> - 2017-01-06 12:45 +0100
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-06 05:30 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jürgen R. <jurgenr@web.de> - 2017-01-06 15:59 +0100
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-06 09:11 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jürgen R. <jurgenr@web.de> - 2017-01-06 18:54 +0100
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-06 13:25 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Vinicius Claudino Ferraz <boralaemcasa@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 13:40 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jürgen R. <jurgenr@web.de> - 2017-01-06 23:19 +0100
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 14:37 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 03:34 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 03:36 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 12:21 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 18:41 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-06 10:09 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-06 09:10 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Me <franz.fritschee.ff@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:14 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-06 18:19 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 16:53 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-07 01:02 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 03:01 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-07 10:20 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-07 09:22 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Me <franz.fritschee.ff@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 09:51 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Me <franz.fritschee.ff@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 09:52 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-07 10:12 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 10:21 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Me <franz.fritschee.ff@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 10:24 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-07 10:57 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu genmailus@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 11:05 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 11:32 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-01-07 11:47 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Me <franz.fritschee.ff@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 11:15 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Me <franz.fritschee.ff@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 17:21 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 20:48 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-08 01:36 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-08 01:38 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-01-08 03:04 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jürgen R. <jurgenr@web.de> - 2017-01-08 13:27 +0100
                Re: Déjà vu Me <franz.fritschee.ff@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 10:01 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-09 12:34 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-09 10:08 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-09 17:18 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu genmailus@gmail.com - 2017-01-09 14:28 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-09 17:55 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu Me <franz.fritschee.ff@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 17:12 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-09 20:55 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 18:08 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 23:08 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-10 10:55 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 05:13 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-10 09:49 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-10 07:44 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-10 11:45 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-10 09:51 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 10:33 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 10:35 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 13:00 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 11:05 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-10 18:08 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 17:25 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-11 01:48 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 23:24 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 00:34 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-11 11:26 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:55 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-11 12:13 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 09:20 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 09:22 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 09:23 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-11 13:11 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 10:26 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-11 13:42 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 10:50 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 10:58 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 11:01 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 11:03 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-01-11 11:11 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-10 00:03 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2017-01-10 10:21 -0500
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 07:29 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 07:27 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2017-01-06 09:17 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:35 -0800
                Re: Déjà vu bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-01-06 13:54 -0800
              Re: Déjà vu bursejan@gmail.com - 2017-01-05 03:13 -0800
      Re: Déjà vu Me <franz.fritschee.ff@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 08:46 -0800
      Re: Déjà vu Me <franz.fritschee.ff@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 08:51 -0800
        Re: Déjà vu John Gabriel <thenewcalculus@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 08:53 -0800

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