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Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set

From Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com>
Newsgroups comp.databases.filemaker
Subject Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set
Date 2013-11-14 18:57 +1300
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <141120131857384243%HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> (permalink)
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In article <4f6960ba-9ead-4d3d-9955-6f3fc3a10f43@googlegroups.com>,
Howard - FM Pro Solutions <fmprosolutions@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:47:36 AM UTC-8, Charles H. Sampson wrote:
> > Howard - FM Pro Solutions <fmprosolutions@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > If you have an UNSTORED (calc field) value, then it will automatically
> > > update itself whenever one of its dependencies are changed.  If you want a
> > > STORED dependent field to change, then you'll need to somehow
> > > force-trigger that change through a script or sometimes through use of the
> > > Evaluate() function with dependencies specified.
> > 
> >      The true believers in FileMaker seem to accept this the way of the
> > world. Here's what I, as a long-time designer and implementer of systems
> > software, see. With FileMaker we have a piece of software that permits
> > users to say, "Here is a formula. I want the value of that formula to be
> > put in this location." The implementers of FileMaker then say, "Fine.
> > We'll do that for you sometimes and sometimes we'll put a value that has
> > nothing to do with your formula." The only word that describes such an
> > "implementation" is "absurd".
> 
> Those of us who understand how FIleMaker works are fine with doing it the
> "FileMaker way".  I'm not sure that's absurd; it's just reality.
> 
> But let's look at other databases. 
<snip>

I tried to use Access yesterday to make a very simple database that
needed to calculate the sum of data in related records (something that
would take less than five minutes in FileMaker to whip up) ... good
grief what an disgutingly hopeless pig of a system that is. In the end
I gave up wasting the time and went back to the old slower method in
Excel instead.

Helpful Harry  :o)

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Value Not Dependent on the Found Set csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2013-11-11 09:16 -0800
  Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set Howard - FM Pro Solutions <fmprosolutions@gmail.com> - 2013-11-11 09:33 -0800
    Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2013-11-13 09:47 -0800
      Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set Erik Appeldoorn <ursus.kirk@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 19:29 +0100
        Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2013-11-16 00:01 -0800
          Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set "E. Appeldoorn" <ursus.kirk@ziggo.nl> - 2013-11-16 10:24 +0100
            Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2013-11-18 10:14 -0800
              Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> - 2013-11-19 08:42 +1300
                Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2013-11-19 09:20 -0800
                Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> - 2013-11-20 09:08 +1300
      Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> - 2013-11-14 09:19 +1300
        Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2013-11-16 00:01 -0800
      Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set Howard - FM Pro Solutions <fmprosolutions@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 12:41 -0800
        Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> - 2013-11-14 18:57 +1300
        Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2013-11-16 00:01 -0800
          Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set Howard Schlossberg <howard@nospam.fmprosolutions.com> - 2013-11-16 15:08 -0800
            Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> - 2013-11-17 12:43 +1300
              Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2013-11-18 06:58 -0800
            Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2013-11-18 10:02 -0800
              Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2013-11-20 07:00 -0800
                Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set Howard - FM Pro Solutions <fmprosolutions@gmail.com> - 2013-11-20 09:44 -0800
                Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> - 2013-11-21 09:04 +1300
                Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set Howard - FM Pro Solutions <fmprosolutions@gmail.com> - 2013-11-20 12:55 -0800
                Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set clkaufmann@gmx.ch (Christoph Kaufmann) - 2013-11-21 16:59 +0100
                Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> - 2013-11-22 09:22 +1300
  Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set clkaufmann@gmx.ch (Christoph Kaufmann) - 2013-11-11 19:38 +0100
  Re: Value Not Dependent on the Found Set csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2013-11-20 23:00 -0800

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