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Re: optimizing compilers for low power design

From <Pidgeot18@verizon.com.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.compilers
Subject Re: optimizing compilers for low power design
Date 2014-06-15 18:58 -0500
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <14-06-007@comp.compilers> (permalink)
References <14-06-003@comp.compilers> <14-06-004@comp.compilers>

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On 6/15/2014 10:43 AM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> On 2014-06-15, idatarm@gmail.com <idatarm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>    Abstract: We describe an algorithm for optimizing compilers for low
>>    power design. The algorithm can be applied to almost any c compiler
>>    and in particular we target gcc compiler. The algorithm works by
>>    modifying optimization table lookup of gcc.  This works in theory. We
>
> Instructions do not have a fixed power cost which can be measured by
> repeating a long run of that instruction and then dividing.
> It depends on their operands, and the complex state of the CPU (what
> other instructions are in the pipeline before and after, caching, etc).
> This approach might work on a very old processor, on which every instruction
> had a predictable instruction count.

I see it as plausible that different functional units can take
usefully different power to compute (i.e., using x86 SSE instructions
versus the x87 instruction set, or using vectorized versus
non-vectorized instructions). Even then, though, I consider it only an
a priori plausible event--you'd need to provide experimental evidence
that it actually occurs in practice before continuing.

> Percentages do not add.

Were that the only serious error of this paper. The percentages
themselves seem to be literally conjured out of thin air.

> Your paper's reference [1], "A Guide to LaTeX" is inappropriate to your
> topic and suggests that you're trying to inflate your reference section.  If
> you're going to do this this, bury the questionable reference in the
> middle of the list; do not begin the list with one.

The other 4 references are equally irrelevant. Two of them are
self-citations of earlier work on what appears to be waveform pattern
generation for electrical circuits and the other two may be culled from
the references of those problems. In contrast, a typical PL paper would
contain a page of references or more.

> You have a typographical problem.

The grammatical mistakes in the paper reached the threshold of "actively
distracting" for me.

Curious, I decided to see what other papers might be found, given that
the URL contains a papers folder.
...

Unfortunately, this appears to be the most logically cohesive paper of
the lot. The more I read, the more I got the feeling that the author is
very much outside of his capabilities in this line of work.

--
Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not
tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth

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optimizing compilers for low power design idatarm@gmail.com - 2014-06-15 05:20 -0700
  Re: optimizing compilers for low power design Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-06-15 15:43 +0000
    Re: optimizing compilers for low power design Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-06-15 11:19 -0700
    Re: optimizing compilers for low power design <Pidgeot18@verizon.com.invalid> - 2014-06-15 18:58 -0500
    Re: optimizing compilers for low power design "Derek M. Jones" <derek@_NOSPAM_knosof.co.uk> - 2014-06-16 12:11 +0100
      Re: optimizing compilers for low power design George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2014-06-18 04:44 -0400
        Re: optimizing compilers for low power design glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-06-20 18:13 +0000
        Re: optimizing compilers for low power design Ivan Godard <ivan@ootbcomp.com> - 2014-06-20 11:52 -0700
        Re: optimizing compilers for low power design Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-06-20 12:16 -0700
        Re: optimizing compilers for low power design George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2014-06-20 17:24 -0400
    Re: optimizing compilers for low power design Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2014-06-16 13:30 -0400
  Re: optimizing compilers for low power design andrewchamberss@gmail.com - 2014-06-20 05:03 -0700

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