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Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode

From VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode
Date 2025-02-15 08:48 -0600
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"John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Gone are the simple days of pressing F8 while starting your computer.

Did you try either Paul's suggestion:

  bcdedit /set {bootmgr} displaybootmenu True
  
or mine from the Minitool article, method #4:

  bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy
  
to see if you got the F8 boot-time menu?

Neither displaybootmenu or bootmenupolicy arguments are mentioned in
Microsoft's article on bcdedit at:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/bcdedit-command-line-options

but maybe they are undocumented arguments, or you have to drill down
using "set /? <arg>" to get to the lower options.  The:

bcdedit /?

command shows the command-line syntax for bcdedit.  Since both {bootmgr}
and {default} are the ID args in the above commands, I checked which
where listed using:

bcdedit /? ID

Both the {default} and {bootmgr} identifiers in the above commands are
listed.  Paul's suggestion of modifying the {bootmgr} property in the
BCD table probably applies no matter which BCD entry is selected.
Minitool's suggestion of modifying the {default} entry might only apply
when the default boot entry is selected versus.

bcdedit /? TYPES {bootmgr}

shows the displaybootmenu for a display attribute on the {bootmgr}
object, so Paul's suggestion looks valid.

I didn't drill through all the sublevels of help in bcdedit to find what
options could be set on the {default} object.  However, on some web
searching, I'm wondering if True or Yes should be used in Paul's
suggestion:

  bcdedit /set {bootmgr} displaybootmenu True
or
  bcdedit /set {bootmgr} displaybootmenu yes
  
Yes shows the boot menu when the computer starts.  No hides the boot
manager on startup.

bcdedit /? types bootmgr

says the displaybootmenu property is a Boolean which, to me, means you
use a 0 or 1 (false or true), or a False or True value, but, I suppose,
No and Yes would also work for False and True.  If you run without args:

bcdedit

the BCD config data is listed.  For me, none of them show the
displaybootmenu option; however, not all properties are listed, so the
disabled (False) properties are probably not listed in the output.
While msconfig's Boot tab shows some options per boot entry, it has
never shown everything that bcdedit can manage.

There are some GUI editors as an alternative to bcdedit.  Visual BCD is
one, but its home page of boyans.net looks to be abandoned.  Its domain
registration expired in Nov 2029, but the site is nonfunctional.  You
can get it from:

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/visual_bcd_editor.html

but that is dated 14 years ago.  EasyBCD has been updated more recently
(2018), but is a freemium product (i.e., crippled unless you pay).  It's
web site is still active at:

https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/

The free version is for personal-use only, and registerware.  I didn't
find a comparison page to show what, if any, features might be missing
in the free version, or if it's just a licensing issue.  I have used
EasyBCD in the past, but too long ago to remember, and still have it in
my lists of downloads (version 2.3 c.2015, but it's now at 2.4 c.2018).
Alas, the screenshots they omit is for the Edit Boot Menu and Advanced
Settings groups, so I cannot tell how well in-depth they cover all the
settings available with bcdedit.

I looked at several Youtube videos on EasyBCD, but didn't any that
delves into Advanced Settings.

https://neosmart.net/wiki/easybcd/basics/advanced-settings/

That doesn't mention the displaybootmenu option.  Under Edit Boot Menu
(where you select a boot entry to edit), there is a "Skip the boot menu"
option, but I don't know that is the same as the displaybootmenu option.

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How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-12 05:51 -0800
  Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-12 06:03 -0800
  Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-02-12 08:06 -0600
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-12 06:16 -0800
      Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-02-12 08:55 -0600
      Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-16 14:02 +0000
        Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-16 06:26 -0800
          Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-16 15:36 +0000
            Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-16 19:15 +0000
              Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-16 13:51 -0800
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-16 18:48 -0600
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-17 05:08 -0800
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-19 01:39 -0500
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 15:42 +0000
              Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-02-16 20:48 -0600
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 15:42 +0000
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-17 12:11 -0600
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 18:57 +0000
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-02-18 01:36 -0600
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2025-02-18 11:14 -0900
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-02-18 00:29 -0600
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Mr Xi Ji Ping <ping@china.cn> - 2025-02-19 03:16 +0000
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-19 04:02 -0500
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-02-12 16:43 -0500
  Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-12 12:44 -0600
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-02-12 15:25 -0600
  Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-12 19:16 -0500
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-13 05:18 -0800
  Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-02-13 03:28 +0000
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Uncle Sam <uncle.sam@usa.com> - 2025-02-13 03:58 +0000
      Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-13 05:27 -0800
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-13 03:01 -0500
  Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-15 08:48 -0600
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-15 08:56 -0600
      Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-02-16 09:34 -0600
        Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-16 12:27 -0600
          Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-02-16 15:29 -0600
            Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-16 18:45 -0600
              Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 16:06 +0000
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-17 10:28 -0600
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 16:51 +0000
        Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-16 20:01 -0500
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-15 09:40 -0600
      Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-16 06:32 -0800
        Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-16 12:30 -0600
          Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-16 13:56 -0800
            Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-16 18:46 -0600
              Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-17 05:33 -0800
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-17 10:15 -0600

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