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| From | Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> |
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| References | <5a525f2728af26001cc50858601bde1e@dizum.com> <rtpicb5auonlkgnna9o0fc24876fl8sei1@4ax.com> |
| Subject | Re: Hey DildoRider... |
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| Date | 2016-02-22 05:49 +0100 |
| Newsgroups | alt.free.newsservers, alt.usenet.kooks, sci.physics |
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Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass, in <news:rtpicb5auonlkgnna9o0fc24876fl8sei1@4ax.com> did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again: > Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus > <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote: >> <http://i.imgur.com/SMRGcQY.png> >> >> Showing the Euler sinewave summation equation plotting 170 volt peak >> hot legs translating into 120.208 volt RMS L-N and 208.207 volt L-L, >> as is evidenced in 120/208 wye electrical service, the most ubiquitous >> commercial electrical service. > ROFL! Fakey, you graphed 3 signals of 120v PEAK, not RMS. WTF? You're retarded. The 170 volt peak sinewaves are in the first three equations, the 120.208 volt RMS L-N are the first resultants. The fourth equation calculates the 208.207 volt RMS L-L, one of the second resultants as a result of summing the first resultants. If you like, I can graph the other two 208.207 volt RMS L-L legs to prove you wrong even further, but there's little point. I'm right, and you're a moron. SPNAK! > And a fourth signal with 208v PEAK, not RMS. > > Why do they not match the equations on the left, which all > say 170*sin(something)? Because you're a fucking moron who doesn't understand that the 170 volt peak tributaries result in the 120.208 volt RMS L-N first resultants via superposition, as is correctly graphed. Nor do you understand that the 120.208 volt RMS L-N first resultants result in the 208.207 volt RMS L-L second resultants via superposition, as is correctly graphed. Because you're a moron who doesn't understand how the Euler sinewave summation equation works. And you're a moron who doesn't understand how superposition (aka constructive and destructive interference) works. SPNAK! > Try again. That graph is correct. You're just a moron. LOL SPNAK! >> DildoRider can't figure out that Euler-Fourier equation to save his >> pathetic life, > Neither can you. I just did. And I graphed it. Correctly. Moron. SPNAK! >> Shiny Metal Brain didn't even know the Euler equation is a subset of >> equations known as the Euler-Fourier Formulas, > And i still don't know that, your word to the contrary > notwithstanding. My word and... <https://math.byu.edu/home/sites/default/files/u107/fourseries_0.pdf> ========================================================== A Fourier Series is a series of periodic functions (typically sinusoids) that represents another periodic function. If we could find these easily, then Fourier Series wouldn’t be so daunting. Luckily, our good friend Euler derived some equations that are now known as the Euler-Fourier Formulas. ========================================================== Which handily proves you *wrong* on your kooky contention that the Euler sinewave summation isn't a subset of the Euler-Fourier Formulas, *and* handily proves you *wrong* on your kooky contention that Fourier math isn't used on sinewaves. SPNAK! >> thus that a sinewave is a transformation of a circle (which >> should have been intuitive, given that generators *rotate* >> to create *sinusoids*), > And it's not. And it is, you're just a moron. Already posted (three times), and you avoided it (three times), so I'll post it again: <http://betterexplained.com/articles/an-interactive-guide-to-the-fourier-transform/> See the animations about 1/4th down the page? Yeah, those are Fourier transforms transforming circles to sine waves in real time... and in the process smearing egg on your stoooopid face. LOL <http://muller.research.engineering.cornell.edu/sites/WEELS/summer06/Fourier%20Transforms-2D.pdf> 2D Fourier transform of a circularly symmetric function translates to Bessinc shape in 2-D, translates in 1-D to a sinewave. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourier_transform> "Still further generalization is possible to functions on groups, which, besides the original Fourier transform on R or R" (viewed as groups under addition), notably includes the discrete-time Fourier transform (DTFT, group = Z), the discrete Fourier transform (DFT, group = Z mod N) and the Fourier series or *circular* *Fourier* *transform* (group = S^1, the unit circle ~ closed finite interval with endpoints identified). The latter is routinely employed to handle periodic functions." <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodic_function> You know, periodic functions... like sinewaves. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sine_and_cosine_transforms> "In mathematics, the Fourier sine and cosine transforms are forms of the Fourier integral transform that do not use complex numbers." Gee.. that *Fourier* *sine* *transform* sure looks familiar, doesn't it? <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sine_and_cosine_transforms> "Relation with complex exponentials: The form of the Fourier transform used more often today is... Euler's Formula" Why, that's the exact equation I used to properly graph 170 volt peak 3-phase, which translates to 120.208 volt RMS L-N and 208.207 volt RMS L-L. I guess that's why they're called the Euler-Fourier Formulas. <http://i.imgur.com/SMRGcQY.png> SPNAK! >> that superposition >> was the same as wave interference, that wave interference works the >> same for standing or traveling waves, > Similar but also not the same. Sure they are. All waves interfere, constructively and destructively, via superposition. <http://www.phys.uconn.edu/~gibson/Notes/Section5_2/Sec5_2.htm> "On the other hand, completely independent of the geometry, there is a property of waves called superposition that can lead to constructive or destructive interference." Aren't you the *moron* who insisted that constructive / destructive interference and superposition were completely different things, then backpedaled and said interference only happened with traveling waves because you didn't realize wave interference occurs regardless of whether a wave is standing or traveling? Yeah... yeah you are. SPNAK! >> nor that 170 volt peak, 120.208 volt RMS L-N 3-phase service >> gives 208.207 volts L-L. > Which you can't graph right. <http://i.imgur.com/SMRGcQY.png> Showing the Euler sinewave summation equation plotting 170 volt peak hot legs translating into 120.208 volt RMS L-N and 208.207 volt RMS L-L, as is evidenced in 120/208 wye electrical service, the most ubiquitous commercial electrical service. SPNAK! > Actually you started with the wrong numbers. Standard > electric line power is 120v RMS, which is 169.71v peak. > 3phase L-L is 207.85v RMS, or 293.94v peak. Good gawd you're fucking dumb. I plotted the 170 volt peak tributary sinewaves, which gives the first resultant 120.208 volt RMS L-N sinewaves, which gives the second resultant 208.207 volt RMS L-L sinewaves. SPNAK! > Not that the actual measured values will match to 5 > significant digits, and I will forgive you for the small > error. But it shows you don't understand where those > numbers come from. Those equations are exactly *correct*. You're just a moron who's displaying his inability to grasp reality. SPNAK! >> And I'm the *only* one who got the equation to graph properly. > Re-ROFL. >> <dances a jig> >> >> Ah, it's good to be the king. Maybe next time you'll think twice about >> tangling with somebody smarter than you. Moron. LOL >> >> <snicker, gloat, snicker, gloat, snicker, gloat... snicker> > Oh, but life is grand in lala land. > > Why settle for king, when you could be a Christ? I'm already your Usenet Lord and Master, what more is there? LOL SPNAK! -- Kensi the moron wrote: ================================ The sphere's Gaussian curvature is 1/r^2, and its area is 4*pi*r^2, so the curvature is 4*pi ================================ Kensi the moron said the Gaussian curvature = 1 / r^2 *and* the Gaussian curvature = 4 * pi. Therefore, 1 / r^2 = 4 * pi Therefore, r = 0.28209479176 Kensi the moron says every sphere in the entire universe has a radius of 0.28209479176. Of course, being a moron, kensi didn't specify the units. The moron also said the Gaussian curvature of a sphere is dependent upon that sphere's radius. Wholly incorrect. Kensi the moron was corrected: ================================ Did... did you just say "the Gaussian curvature = 1/r^2" *and* "the Gaussian curvature = 4*pi" therefore "1/r^2 = 4*pi"? Now you backpedal, LunkHead. You mean the Gaussian curvature = 1/r^2 * (4*pi*r^2) therefore = (4*pi), and therefore the Gaussian curvature of a sphere is independent of r due to its symmetry, thereby proving your original "The sphere's Gaussian curvature is 1/r^2" blather *wrong*? ================================ But Kensi the moron persists in insisting that what he wrote isn't fucked up, and that the Gaussian curvature of a sphere *does* depend upon its radius, because he doesn't understand the equations he's trying to use, he doesn't know the difference between 'constant curvature' and 'Gaussian curvature', he doesn't know what an integral is, and he's a halfwit who can't figure out even basic geometry problems. Now remember, this is the same moron who k'lames he's an astrophysicist... yet he's stated that the Riemann curvature tensor concept being the central mathematical tool in the theory of general relativity and the modern theory of gravity, and the curvature of space-time being described by the geodesic deviation equation, is "science fiction" and "a howler". In addition, the moron k'lamed that 4-D Minkowski space-time was mostly positive Gaussian curvature, with only small areas of negative Gaussian curvature, which proves the moron has no idea of the effects of mass or magnetism upon the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold. He has k'lamed that the Gaussian curvature of the universe is predominantly positive, which means Lunkhead believes that massive objects such as planets, stars and black holes ride *above* the tangential plane of the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, thereby making the planes of principal curvature positive Gaussian curvature, and thus causing gravity to *repel*. Lunkhead the moron has k'lamed that magnetism has "*no* effect" upon the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, then backpedaled and said there was a "small amount of positive curvature due to the energy density in the field", thereby proving he doesn't know how magnetism affects the 4-D Minkowski space-time manifold, and denies the existence of magnetic attraction. Thus, Kensi the moron has described a universe in which planets could not maintain their orbits, a universe in which magnets could not work, and therefore a universe which could not exist. Kensi is the same moron who k'lames that snow at a colder temperature than the surrounding atmosphere is somehow violating the First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics and giving off "blackbody radiation". Kensi is the same moron who k'lames that snow gives off "blackbody radiation" at wavelengths that would put the temperature of the snow at 489 F. Kensi is the same moron who first denied the existence of the ~11-micron infrared atmospheric window, then backpedaled and k'lamed that snow emitted outside that ~11-micron window, and was proven wrong. Then the spankard moron tried to use the backpedal of "blackbody radiation" being at a different wavelength than spectral emission, yet again demonstrating that the moron has no clue how spectral absorption and emission works. Kensi is the same moron who denies the NASA SABER study proving that CO2 is a global *cooling* gas _because_ of the ~11-micron infrared atmospheric window. The reality exposed by the NASA SABER study also proves the Klimate Katastrophe Kook Anthropogenic Global Warming k'lame of CO2 being a global warming gas is a fairy tale that violates the First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics, thus destroying CO2-induced AGW, yet this same moron continues to cling to his delusions. Kensi is the same moron who continues to cling to his delusion that global warming causes more intense hurricanes, despite three peer-reviewed studies proving the exact opposite. Kensi is not an astrophysicist, he's far too stupid to be. He's just a slumpy dumpy frumpy lumpy loser trying to pretend that he's intelligent... and failing badly. That would be because Kensi is a moron with an underpowered brain that struggles (and fails) to understand reality.
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