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Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode

From VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode
Date 2025-02-12 12:44 -0600
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"John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I decided that it would be a good idea to know how to do this, so I
> looked it up and... my God... what an absolute clusterfuck.
> 
> Gone are the simple days of pressing F8 while starting your computer.
> This is a history (according to CoPilot) of the process:
> 
> Windows 95/98/ME:
> 
>     Press F8: Restart your computer and repeatedly press the F8 key
> right before the Windows logo appears.
> 
>     Select Safe Mode: Choose Safe Mode from the boot menu.
> 
> Windows 2000:
> 
>     Press F8: Similar to Windows 95/98/ME, restart your computer and
> press F8 before the Windows logo appears.
> 
>     Select Safe Mode: Pick Safe Mode from the boot options.
> 
> Windows XP:
> 
>     Press F8: Restart and press F8 key before the Windows logo shows up.
> 
>     Select Safe Mode: Navigate to and select Safe Mode from the Advanced
> Options menu.
> 
> Windows Vista and Windows 7:
> 
>     Press F8: Restart your computer, and before the Windows logo
> appears, press F8.
> 
>     Select Safe Mode: Choose Safe Mode from the Advanced Boot Options menu.
> 
> Windows 8 and 8.1:
> 
>     Shift + Restart:
> 
>         Open the Charm Bar with Win + C.
> 
>         Click on Settings > Power while holding the Shift key, and
> select Restart.
> 
>         Navigate to Troubleshoot > Advanced options > Startup Settings.
> 
>         Click Restart and then choose 4 for Safe Mode or 5 for Safe Mode
> with Networking.
> 
> Windows 10:
> 
>     Shift + Restart:
> 
>         On the sign-in screen, press and hold the Shift key while
> selecting Power > Restart.
> 
>         Navigate to Troubleshoot > Advanced options > Startup Settings.
> 
>         Click Restart and then choose 4 for Safe Mode or 5 for Safe Mode
> with Networking.
> 
>     Settings:
> 
>         Go to Settings > Update & Security > Recovery.
> 
>         Under Advanced startup, click Restart now.
> 
>         Follow the same steps as above.
> 
>     System Configuration:
> 
>         Press Win + R, type msconfig, and press Enter.
> 
>         Go to the Boot tab and check Safe boot.
> 
>         Click Apply and then OK.
> 
>         Restart your computer.
> 
> Windows 11:
> 
>     Shift + Restart:
> 
>         On the sign-in screen, press and hold the Shift key while
> selecting Power > Restart.
> 
>         Navigate to Troubleshoot > Advanced options > Startup Settings.
> 
>         Click Restart and then choose 4 for Safe Mode or 5 for Safe Mode
> with Networking.
> 
>     Settings:
> 
>         Go to Settings > System > Recovery.
> 
>         Under Advanced startup, click Restart now.
> 
>         Follow the same steps as above.
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> 
> Hmmm....

How to Start Windows 10 in Safe Mode
https://www.minitool.com/data-recovery/how-to-start-windows-10-in-safe-mode-009.html
#4 - Start Windows 10 in Safe Mode While Bootong Through the F8 Key

According to that article, #4 method has you use bcdedit (the boot table
editor) to modify the setup to allow repeatedly hitting F8 on cold boot
to get the recovery menu.

The criteria is you repeatedly hit F8 *before* the Windows boot menu
appears (assuming you have more than one boot entry from which you can
select).  However, you'll probably need to disable Fast Startup to
prevent sliding past this dialog so fast that you'll never see it.
Besides, Fast Startup causes problems with some drivers, hardware
incompatibility (often due to invalid driver state), and often reduces
stability.  Plus, while it makes shorter the bootup time, it makes
longer the shutdown time; however, while users sit at the computer
waiting for bootup, they often shutdown, and leave, without waiting.
Fast Startup is a hybrid hibernate, so you don't get a true cold boot.

Win10/11 How to disable Fast Startup
https://www.asus.com/us/support/faq/1045548/

Why you SHOULD disable fast startup on your computers!
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-windows-10-fast-startup

The BCD (Boot Configuration Data) is a binary database that replaced the
old boot.ini text file you could edit with a text editor even if Windows
didn't boot, but then malware could easily modify it, too.  

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/bcdedit-command-line-options

Allan's suggestion assumes you can successfully load Windows to then run
his batch files to follow with another [re]boot.  Presumably Minitool's
#4 method changes the BCD setup to restore the legacy F8 method, so you
don't have to successfully boot into Windows 10 to then reboot into Safe
Mode.  You cold boot once, not twice (cold boot and warm boot).

No idea if the Minitool tweaks works for Windows 11.  The article is for
Windows 10.

One of the first tweaks I perform after installing Windows 10 is to
disable Fast Startup.  While I already have Fast Startup disabled on my
Win10 setup, I'll wait to see if the #4 method above works to let you
cold boot into Safe Mode using the F8 key.  If you try it, please reply
if it worked for you, or not.  I'm interested since if it works then
I'll use it, too.

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How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-12 05:51 -0800
  Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-12 06:03 -0800
  Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-02-12 08:06 -0600
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-12 06:16 -0800
      Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-02-12 08:55 -0600
      Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-16 14:02 +0000
        Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-16 06:26 -0800
          Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-16 15:36 +0000
            Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-16 19:15 +0000
              Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-16 13:51 -0800
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-16 18:48 -0600
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-17 05:08 -0800
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-19 01:39 -0500
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 15:42 +0000
              Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-02-16 20:48 -0600
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 15:42 +0000
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-17 12:11 -0600
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 18:57 +0000
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-02-18 01:36 -0600
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2025-02-18 11:14 -0900
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-02-18 00:29 -0600
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Mr Xi Ji Ping <ping@china.cn> - 2025-02-19 03:16 +0000
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-19 04:02 -0500
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-02-12 16:43 -0500
  Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-12 12:44 -0600
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-02-12 15:25 -0600
  Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-12 19:16 -0500
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-13 05:18 -0800
  Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-02-13 03:28 +0000
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Uncle Sam <uncle.sam@usa.com> - 2025-02-13 03:58 +0000
      Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-13 05:27 -0800
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-13 03:01 -0500
  Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-15 08:48 -0600
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-15 08:56 -0600
      Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-02-16 09:34 -0600
        Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-16 12:27 -0600
          Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-02-16 15:29 -0600
            Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-16 18:45 -0600
              Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 16:06 +0000
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-17 10:28 -0600
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 16:51 +0000
        Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-16 20:01 -0500
    Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-15 09:40 -0600
      Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-16 06:32 -0800
        Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-16 12:30 -0600
          Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-16 13:56 -0800
            Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-16 18:46 -0600
              Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-17 05:33 -0800
                Re: How to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-02-17 10:15 -0600

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