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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.logic, comp.lang.prolog, sci.math |
| Subject | Math AI Vegans hate the Druids Cauldron [MakazhanAlpamys / Soup] (Re: So it was a race against Buzzard. Well done!) |
| Date | 2026-11-11 00:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11d08lp$1bmag$1@solani.org> (permalink) |
| References | (5 earlier) <10srjsg$13bfs$1@solani.org> <10ssije$13umd$3@solani.org> <11478b2$fv28$2@solani.org> <119omnu$pkou$2@solani.org> <119pf8i$nbsg$1@solani.org> |
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Hi,
How it started,
Mathematics of the Future
5.6 AI-vegan mathematicians
https://math.mit.edu/~etingof/futuremath.pdf
How its going:
Soup Layer Streaming for LLM fine-tuning
#4 Repository of the Day
https://github.com/MakazhanAlpamys/Soup
I fear one or two kids might teach it
math (for example via Sutskever/Megill
approach) and soon become new Einsteins,
developing wormhole warpspeed math.
Have Fun
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> There's a larger project called FALSE (Formalising
> Arithmetic in the Lean Software Environment)
> explicitly aimed at "making progress towards
> formalising the Langlands program" . And a
>
> Twitter thread claims Claude autoformalized
> the Fermat proof "in just 11 days," with Kevin
> Buzzard now wanting to formalize the Langlands
> program because he's "concerned it might
> contain subtle errors"
>
> Now look at this:
>
> https://github.com/fukubillueda-web/epsilon_FML
>
> https://github.com/fukubillueda-web/epsilon_SML
>
> According to the related arvix paper:
>
> So the provenance chain is: Dwork (attributed,
> unpublished) → Langlands (used it) → Lakkis (partial
> proof, sign issue) → Ueda (completes it, 2026). That's
> the "mixtape" you're looking for — the mathematical
> content passed through at least three hands before
> Ueda's Lean formalization.
>
> And then: "OpenAI ChatGPT was used extensively in
> the development of this proof." The paper says ChatGPT
> was used "to check calculations and compare them with
> the arguments of Dwork, Langlands, and Lakkis, and
> detect inconsistencies in intermediate versions of
> the proof."
>
> The author "checked the final mathematical
> arguments and assumes responsibility."
>
> Bye
>
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> OpenAI has announced enhancing their Math Swarms
>> by an interpretability accelerator prompt recently
>> discovered in a Terrence Tao workshop.
>>
>> So they are now takling:
>>
>> Mathematician W. Hugh Woodin Explains Continuum Hypothesis
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC7wglkBWMM
>>
>> Infinite fun with infinite worlds
>> https://ethz.ch/en/news-and-events/eth-news/news/2020/08/infinite-fun-with-the-infinite-worlds.html
>>
>>
>> A partial Lean 4 formalization is already in
>> the making. But the hurdles are high. Some
>> speaker of the effort said:
>>
>> The computer might find a new tamagochi knottheory
>> lemma, which will then allow SpaceX to fly to
>> workholes, but the hurdle will be hight that
>>
>> a single human mathematician mind might
>> ingest, understand and interpret it.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Hyperspectral measurements for inter-calibration,
>>> reached a significant milestone this summer.
>>>
>>> The naval observatory only uses fidget spinners
>>> to measure time, so forget Colorado.
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>> >
>>> > So, there's at least three accounts of what can define
>>> "measurement of
>>> > time", in the micro, meso, and macro.
>>> >
>>> > Then these days pretty much the world relies on "the naval
>>> observatory
>>> > in Colorado" if not so much "the clock tower in Greenwich", as with
>>> > regards to ye olde UTC, CUT, "Zulu", and so on, time.
>>> >
>>> > About relativity theory and "measuring rods and clocks", then, it's
>>> > similar that "metric and norm" for "length and distance" also has
>>> > about the Planckian what are "iota-values" as it would be, or, "Pauli
>>> > Plancks", or "Dirac's Pauli Plancks", of measuring space, vis-a-vis,
>>> > measuring time.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > So, there are at least three accounts of what defines measuring time,
>>> > and at least three accounts of what defines measuring space.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Then, since relativity theory is defined by what does that,
>>> > it has the various ways, to so fulfill doing that.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Yeah, I know, most "professional physicists" only have one of those
>>> > on their little note-card with which they passed graduate school.
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>> > Or shaves pennies.
>>>>
>>>> >>> X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVM™) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI
>>>> >>> processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning.
>>>> >>> https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe
>>>>
>>>> Cost/hour: $200,000.00
>>>>
>>>> LoL
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>> P.S.: If it could do some quant trading magic, one would
>>>> possibly pay so much. But Logtalk is simply too lame:
>>>>
>>>> Version release notes
>>>> XVM Engine v10.2.4 is the full engine capable of running
>>>> all XVM and Logtalk programs, excluding for logtalk tools.
>>>>
>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> The 9122171.18175435 is a little offending, what if one
>>>>> keeps a federal secret after the 6 fraction digit?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye
>>>>>
>>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, leaving the beaten path of my Prolog system
>>>>>> probing, and look at some newer beast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This looks bad:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
>>>>>> 9122171.18175435
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Expected result:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?- format('~6f', [pi**14]), nl.
>>>>>> 9122171.181754
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bye
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW: Tested using this test tester:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> X-Machines Virtual Machine (XVM™) is a neurosymbolic virtual AI
>>>>>> processor which combines neural processes with symbolic reasoning.
>>>>>> https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-6luxq22pgmehe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>>> >>> See also:
>>>>>> >>> https://prolog-lang.org/ImprovementsForum/0110-format.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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