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| From | bartc <bc@freeuk.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: p = {1,0,0} |
| Date | 2026-11-10 01:11 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On 09/11/2026 22:47, fir wrote:
> yet maybe some thoughts on for loop syntax potential improvements
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> im really annoyed by long c loops
> like for(int i=0; i<100; i++) {}
So am I.
> back hen i miraculously mabe found some good alternative but it needs
> unicode
But there are a million ways to have a shorter syntax without needing to
resort to Unicode.
Have you looked at /any/ other at languages at all? Take some ideas from
those.
> 100š¢ {}Ā //is alternative for "for(int i=0; i<100; i++) {}"
for i<100 {}
might do it too. But I'd prefer 'for i=0,100 {}'.
> if f() is a function call then
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> f();f();f();f();f();f();f();f();
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> resembles loop thus
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> f()^10 may be understand as a kinda "natural" form of loop
>
So a repeat-N-times loop. Try ntimes 10 {}
> so
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> int i =0; {a[i++]==0? break} ^ strlen(a);
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> might be seen as kinda natural
> (probably thought here strlen would be called many tiles so maybe
>
> int LEN = strlen(a);
> int i =0; {a[i++]==0? break} ^ LEN;
How you have a loop that iterates over 0 to LEN-1, and yet you still
have a repeat-N-times loop and need to manually initialise and step the
index?
Try the idea from above (upper limit is exclusive):
for i=0,strlen(a) {a[i]==0 ? break}
(I won't comment on that ? construct.)
> its not bad still its a bit long, has no shorter form and also
> there is a problem power has no leftsde form like 2^10 has not a form
> "10th power of 2" though maybe some could vrite ^10 {2}
>
> so some shortcut form i could consider
>
> i^100 {tab[i]=0}
for i=1,100 {tab[i]=0}
> its not quite as natural asĀ {tab[i++]=0}^100 but maybe its standable as
What's natural about ^ meaning iteration? In C it means bitwise
exclusive or. In other languages it might mean pow() or pointer deref.
(Remember your example above was f();f();f() not f()*f()*f().)
> its based on idea of power and adds some to it
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> i even noticed this sole sign "^" could be read as "for"
>
> i^100 would mean power given blockĀ 100 times and i treat as a number of
> this powering
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> i^10..99 { tab[i] = 0; }
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> ( or { tab[i] = 0; } i^10..99 )
for i=10,100 {tab[i] = 0}
Everyone can see it is a for loop.
>
> im not sure if this is enough good but thoseĀ two syntaxes
> (one using this unicode indexes in minimal form) and this based on
> ascii is what i'm about currently
>
> some could be worried that now this i as index is not an "int i"
> only enigmatic i - but im not sure if such special thing as index of the
> loop (which is kinda low level thing should be necessary a clasical int
> i..maybe it shouldnt?
A loop index is definitely a thing, just not in C because it is so
backward. Even Fortran had it in the 1950s:
do x i=1,100 # inclusive range
(x is a label for the end of the loop as it didn't have block syntax yet.)
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p = {1,0,0} fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-11-01 14:32 +0100
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Re: p = {1,0,0} David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-11-10 09:24 +0100
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Re: p = {1,0,0} Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-11-10 04:29 -0800
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