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Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?)

From Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?)
Date 2026-11-09 07:29 -0700
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On 11/8/26 20:54, c186282 wrote:
> On 11/8/26 21:34, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>> On 11/8/2026 18:24, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 11/8/26 03:08, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>>>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>>     A lot of the old mini's - even mainframes - were
>>>>>     VERY SLOW by any modern standard. Slow enough to
>>>>>     be hilarious these days. CPU speed barely factored
>>>>>     in - the I/O speed with cards/tapes/etc used up
>>>>>     a huge amount of time.
>>>>
>>>> Hence spooling.
>>>
>>>    Spooling HELPS ... but, at some point, you've gotta
>>>    actually read/write to the shitty slow media. Also
>>>    spooling requires RAM ... which was in short supply
>>>    for a long time. I remember big cubes full of mag-core
>>>    memory ..... and it wasn't MUCH memory either.
>>
>> Back in my University Computer Center days, a few of us attended a 
>> class in London on debugging paradigms. On the first day, we 
>> introduced ourselves and described our workplace's significant 
>> computer systems. One of the attendeed was from IBM Grenoble, and as 
>> he described their main system with a whopping 16MB of main memory, we 
>> all oohed and aahed and wondered aloud how anyone could make 
>> productive use of that much memory. But he explained that they easily 
>> used it all up with their static analysis tools, their version control 
>> system, their auditing programs making sure the programs adhered to 
>> their programming standards etc. We all shook our heads at how IBM 
>> clearly had too much money on their hands if they could spend it on 
>> such frills!!
> 
>    16 MEGABYTES ??? Wow !!!  :-)
> 
>    The old mag-core memory units were MUCH smaller.
> 
>    Also EXPENSIVE as all hell ... hey, little ferrite
>    doughnuts hand-placed on wires .......
> 
>    The coolest was 'rope memory' ... the doughnuts
>    hand-placed on long strands of wires. the old
>    Lunar Excursion Module computer used it. NASA
>    basically contracted Good Knitter grannies ...

Wasn't the rope memory ROM for that thing?

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My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-11-06 18:37 -0800
  Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-11-07 00:51 -0500
    Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-11-07 06:20 -0800
      Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-11-07 07:38 -0700
      Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-11-08 02:47 +0000
    Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-11-07 07:31 -0700
      Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-11-07 06:52 -0800
        Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-11-07 20:09 -0500
          Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-11-08 08:08 +0000
            Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-11-08 21:24 -0500
              Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-11-08 18:34 -0800
                Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-11-08 22:54 -0500
                Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-11-09 04:39 +0000
                Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-11-09 21:08 -0500
                Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-11-10 02:25 +0000
                Re: My Computer History Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-11-10 02:32 +0000
                Re: My Computer History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-11-09 23:07 -0500
                Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-11-09 22:49 -0500
                Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-11-10 06:03 -0800
                Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-11-10 15:08 +0000
                Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-11-09 07:29 -0700
                Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-11-09 16:11 +0000
                Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-11-09 21:19 -0500
                Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-11-10 14:31 +0000
                Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2026-11-09 07:48 -1000
                Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-11-09 21:55 -0500
                Re: My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-11-09 21:35 -0700
              Re: spooling, My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-11-09 16:56 +0000
                Re: spooling, My Computer History (Re: Is This An Old Folks Home?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-11-09 21:46 -0500

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