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Date 2026-10-16 12:26 +0000
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On Fri, 16 Oct 2026 13:03:54 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Computers are not natural. Ergo 'computer science' is meaningless
> bollocks

I absolutely agree, the English term "computer science" is an unfortunate 
choice of words which had the main purpose of sounding trendy in the 50s 
(much like "artificial intelligence", "operations research", "linear 
programming").

Most pure / theoretical computer science is actually _computing_ science, 
i.e. the study of computational processes and their properties, with 
little regard to whether computation on abstract structures is carried out 
by mind or machine.

Does an algorithm terminate?
Which properties does a tree have?
What is computable? 

These are hardly computer-related topics and predate the first computers.

However, it must be noted that Von Neumann was likely familiar with the 
Turing machine as an abstraction and it influenced the Von Neumann design: 
maybe we needed a science of computation before we could build _practical_ 
computing machines?

On the other hand, the areas of distributed computing or databases or real 
time systems I'd clearly consider (theoretical) engineering, i.e. the 
study of man-made systems and their design.

You can find either at a CS conference.

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