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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: Back To CS Basics. Fuck AI |
| Date | 2026-10-16 09:55 +0100 |
| Organization | A little, after lunch |
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On 16/10/2026 07:08, Tapiro Ubriaco wrote: > I don't understand the rabid anti-intellectualism that's going around > here. > I am a fully qualified degree possessing engineer, in both general and electrical engineering. And in this case I fully concur with c186272 There is a place for theory, but its a very much smaller place than most third rate intellectuals would have you believe, and reliance on theory rather than practice and common sense is the reason why the Left makes such a fuckup of things. > Sure, you don't need a mechanical engineering degree to drive your car > around (duh!), but if you were working in the field it would generally > help, and I am very, very happy that my car was designed by people with an > actual degree. Such faith. It almost certainly was not. In fact almost all design is done by draughtsmen Or technicians. I learnt this at my first company - a military and aerospace company. Boffins were very thin on the ground. What there were, were enormous quantities of low paid technicians, who understood enough to take something someone else had designed, often from another project, and fiddle with it till it met the spec. There is an instructive video somewhere on the development of the Cosworth racing engine. Most of it is 'subtract metal, till it breaks, and then put it back again' The point being that that was quicker than the sort of complex stress analysis calculations that you can now do with a computer. Not a degree engineer, A computer And that was how aircraft used to be designed too. serried ranks of chaps with slide rules doing calculations, and then the thing still didn't fly right and had to be modified. In general as a practising engineer, you don't do calculations. Either you look the answer up in a book of tables, or you take someone else's actual test results. Or use a computer these days Rather than being able to answer the question from first principles, which is what degree level engineering is, it is so much more important to be able to ask the right question...Like what will happen to my suspension bridge under the aerodynamic load of a 90mph gale...or my skyscraper if someone flies an airliner into it...Bin Laden was (according to one source) a civil engineering graduate. He probably DID calculate it. People love to think - and te marketing bullcrap from car makers ram it down their throats - that a car is some kind of miracle designed by bespectacled geniuses from to technical universities in white coats in spotless laboratories. The reality is always different. Frank Whittle designed and patented the jet engine as an engineer in around 1925, That, in a sense, was the easy part. Leaving aside the political and financial issues, the reason it didn't fly until 1941 was the practical difficulty of building it, It ran too hot for most materials, It spun too fast for most lubrications systems and balancing it was not trivial either. So one painstaking test after another, until something that could last for maybe 100 hours and not fail under combat conditions was arrived at. Then it went into a test airframe. 16 years of work. It flew. A colleague said "Frank, it flies!" His weary retort is alleged to have been "Well that's what it's fucking well supposed to do, isn't it?" That is REAL engineering. Not 'Vorsprung durch technik" -- Any fool can believe in principles - and most of them do!
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