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Re: a small but significant win

From multistrada <ab@in.valid>
Newsgroups alt.global-warming, sci.environment, aus.general, aus.politics
Subject Re: a small but significant win
Date 2026-10-15 13:00 -0600
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 10/15/26 12:43 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2026 10:44:29 -0600, multistrada <ab@in.valid> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/14/26 3:24 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 14:42:52 -0600, multistrada <ab@in.valid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I would like to see a new government and part of me doesn't’give a
>>>>> damn who’s in it as long as it doesn't’include anybody from the Labor,
>>>>> Liberal or Green party organizations that show itself to be without
>>>>> shame or principle
>>>>>
>>>>> All spineless and authoritarian both cowardly and war mongering at the
>>>>> same time
>>>>
>>>> Sound rejections all.
>>>>
>>>> So how about your version of the LP?
>>>>
>>> Consider myself Labor Party, this "Labor Party" has no Labor people in
>>> Cabinet. Haven't for decades! LP the same.
>>
>> We historically have had parties morph out of what they were as well,
>> just not lately - for that we have the uniparty complicity scam.
>>
> Suppose it's free enterprise?
> Honesty though thrown out the door!

100% yes!

But the elites who profit have buried and nested agendas to service.

Pick one (or the other) but never see what it truly is until it's too late.

>>
>>> Never voted Liberal Rod Speed and Ördög claim I do.
>>> When I vote if their is some sort of Christian in poll, that's who I
>>> vote for, realistically though with Preference system they are a
>>> funnel for the pretend LP.
>>
>> Sad.
>>
> I like first past the winning post as in it gives a better more honest
> Government not one rum by lobbyists

Indeed so.

> "Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists
> Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
> paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
> That’s the modern legislative business of parliament.

This is our peril too, with different names attached.

>>
>>> Every Western countries are finding all you are ending up with a Party
>>> system are well spoken greedy, lying grabbing corrupt career
>>> politician whose only purpose is to keep their snout and trotters in
>>> the golden trough
>>
>> Fact.
>>
> Afraid so, grifters all and only allow other griffters in politics to
> protect each other!

As George Carlin (the late comedian) opined - "it's a big club...and we 
ain't in it..."


>>
>>> latest headline none of this travel has anything to her Cabinet
>>> position just thieving lying grabbing what she can take like all the
>>> others
>>>
>>> Coalition slams Small Business Minister Anne Aly over $150,000
>>> taxpayer-funded overseas travel
>>
>> Wow - big $$!
>>
> Only when and if they are caught (mainly by media not internally) the
> are only made to pay back what they were found to be stolen!

You do realize this is also the Kimberly Guilfoile saga right now 
unfolding here:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DecDjorgAuz/

The White House has asked Kimberly Guilfoyle to resign as U.S. 
ambassador to Greece, after The Wall Street Journal reported that she 
had solicited $100,000 from a Trump donor in the run-up to her 
confirmation hearing last year.⁠

> But no actual penalty this evidently has not stopped her or others
> trying again?
> It is simply a breakdown of how the political system protects its own.
> 
> Suggest more fitting ,a multiple of inappropriate costs be repaid,
> not just amount that's been found this time round.

And on and on it goes...

>>
>>> Not one member of the Albanese Cabinet is a labourer in the
>>> traditional Labor sense. There are no miners, factory hands, railway
>>> workers, construction labourers or long-term tradespeople who came
>>> directly from the shop floor. The people now speaking for Labor
>>> largely come from universities, party offices, ministerial staff
>>> positions, unions, law and professional policy careers.
>>
>> It's like "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" - apparatchik style.
>>
> apparatchik style is what is known in Westminster Government as
> "Yes Minister" and "Yes Prime minister" those in government public
> service

:-)

> Shelved after this one exposing the cons of Global Warming
> https://ok.ru/video/6904831150790

;-)

"Oh come off it Humnphrey!"

"The prime minister's not here to do what's right..."

>>
> --
> Petzl
> In a democracy of course you always get a choice
> Do you want to be governed by the red or by the blue
> it’s entirely up to you
> Do you want to be patronized or condescended to, by liars or by crooks
> you get to choose.
> Would you prefer your fundamental values to be insulted or ignored by
> con-men or by charlatans
> In short do you want your influence to be zero or nil
> and when would you like to be listened to, never or not at all, it’s
> your choice
> Do you want, some more choices.
> Take-it-or-leave-it
> Now there’s a real choice
> we have proportional voting in Australia USE IT
> I’d be happy with any kind of representation wouldn't you

I'm not in  multi-party squeeze play, so...

I guess you can rank and hope?

> I would like to see a new government and part of me doesn't’give a
> damn who’s in it as long as it doesn't’include anybody from the Labor,
> Liberal or Green party organizations that show itself to be without
> shame or principle

Good luck.

> All spineless and authoritarian both cowardly and war mongering at the
> same time

A brilliant disguise, eh?

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  Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-12 12:57 -0600
    Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 09:23 +1100
      Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 09:50 +1100
        Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 13:51 +1100
        Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-13 09:46 -0600
      Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-13 09:41 -0600
      Re: a small but significant win Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-10-13 21:19 -0700
        Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 16:02 +1100
          Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 19:11 +1100
            Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 19:42 +1100
        Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 16:18 +1100
          Re: a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-14 07:29 +0000
            Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 19:38 +1100
              Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 03:08 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-14 17:02 +0000
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-14 14:35 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 14:48 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 15:56 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 16:02 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-14 14:36 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:04 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 09:01 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 10:41 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-16 20:38 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 09:39 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 11:03 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 06:32 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 07:38 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-14 14:42 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:24 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 09:10 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 10:44 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 05:43 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 13:00 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 06:48 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-16 03:06 +0000
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 09:38 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:11 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:26 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 10:42 -0600
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 06:15 +1100
            Re: a small but significant win Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-14 20:34 +1100
              Re: a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-14 09:54 +0000
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:01 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 22:09 +1100
              Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 07:52 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 23:49 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 03:25 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 06:10 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:00 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:15 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:45 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:51 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 08:06 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 08:34 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 09:31 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 11:07 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 14:32 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 15:39 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 16:03 +1100
        Re: a small but significant win 000-666 <8-0-15@never.invalid> - 2026-10-14 21:49 +0000

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