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Re: Taming The Switch-Statement

From bart <bc@freeuk.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Taming The Switch-Statement
Date 2026-10-14 16:49 +0100
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On 14/10/2026 13:38, Dan Cross wrote:
> In article <11anobe$1dt0e$1@dont-email.me>, bart  <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:

>> I'd even suggest that using distinct keywords in the original C compiler
>> would have made it a tiny bit simpler.)
> 
> Unlikely.  I'm trying to chase down the citation, but it was
> known that getting B to fit on the PDP-7 was a challenge.  From
> the C history paper,

Perhaps Switch should have been left out then if it was that tight.

Sharing a keyword is just crass. Or maybe they should have considered 
not needing 'break' for switch.

> The irony here, of course, is that you are claiming that C is
> deficient because it doesn't solve what you see as a problem,
> but trying to force the problem space specifically so that it

No, /you/ are trying to discredit a simple solution by widening the 
goalposts.

The main problem being discussed, and the one my test fixed, is that of 
'break' being used for two purposes and therefore resulting in clashes 
when Switches and Loops are mixed.

That could easily have been fixed by DMR choosing to use distinct 
keywords. Do you agree so far?

That of breaking out of nested loops is a different problem that would 
need a different solution, and nothing to do with the clash with switch.

It is also one that seems to be about 100 times less common IME.


> ...except for all the other cases where it is still awkward and
> solves nothing.

IT WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM! Namely the issues that 
ensued from DMR overloading 'break'. NOTHING ELSE.

In fact the confusion between switch-break and loop-break will still be 
there even if labels are added.
>> Unless you've invented a new requirement where you want 'break' within a
>> switch (itself solving an artificial problem) to jump straight to the
>> end of an outer switch.
> 
> Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.  Again, you've identified
> one narrow problem,

It's not that narrow a problem, unless you want to call loops themselves 
a narrow feature.

It is one that many languages solve for LOOPs by using break or 
equivalent. But they tend not to broaden it either to include breaks out 
of arbitrary kinds of blocks.

> I think this is the central reason people don't take your
> criticism of C particularly seriously.

I'm sorry but here I don't take yours seriously either. (Have you ever 
implemented any of this stuff, or even used such features that you propose?)


>> 'Jumping to function scope' is poorly defined. Do you mean cutting
>> across not only all loops, but any containing nested 'if' and 'switch'
>> statements?
> 
> What I mean is this:
> 
> 	void
> 	foo(void)
> 	{
> 		for (int i = 0; i < n; i++) {
> 			for (int j = 0; j < m; i++) {
> 				switch (something) {
> 				case ...:
> 					// I want to break out
> 					// of the switch and
> 					// both loops here.
> 					goto label;
> 				}
> 			}
> 		}
> 	label:
> 	}

This example just breaks out of both loops. That the outer one is at 
function scope is incidental.

If the outer loop was contained within an IF statement, could you jump 
to outside that statement using your proposed feature? If not then that 
is not function scope.

 >> I could have done that in C but it would have taken more than 5 
minutes,>> and this was anyway a proof of concept.
> 
> Yup.  And it took less than that to point out problems.

But it solved the problem I wanted to solve! It would solve the problem 
Michael S reported! That is, using distinct keywords for two different 
things.

>> I've already used that approach for some decades in my other languages,
>> but as I showed in the tables I posted, it is not common, and where
>> used, it was always to break out of all loops.
>>
>> Anyway, I normally use 'all' instead of a specific number to quit all
>> loops. A number works too but I dislike it.
> 
> That sounds overly specific.

So is breaking out of an inner loop with 'break;'! But it works well as 
it's by far the most common requirement. The next most common IME is to 
quit all loops (like you do in your example).

In fact, if there are only two nested loops, the inner and outer cover 
all the possibilities.

> This is actually the argument against the counted multi-level
> break: if I add or remove a level of nesting, I have to find and
> adjust all of the counts.  The labeled break mechanism ties the
> `break` or `continue` to another syntactic element (a label), so

No, it's just another set of problems as I said.

You can add new inner loops, delete inner loops, add outer ones, and 
each time you will need to consider whether the labels need to be moved, 
or extra ones added.

Here's another solution I favour (not implemented), but it only works 
for FOR loops:

    for i in a..b
       for j in c..d
           ... break i

It's a little like using a label, but here that 'label' is the loop 
index. (This won't work in C as there are no formal loop indices.)

> if I add or remove a nesting level, I'm still breaking to where
> I had intended to before.

Yes, but that might now be the wrong loop.

> That said, applying the argument to the labeled case is silly.
> Software engineering and good programming practice still matter.
> If you are changing the nested looping structure of your
> program, then you should know where you want to break to;
> presumably your program's behavior depends on it.

Agreed; see below.

> I'd say the stronger argument for the labeled control structure
> is actually nested switch statements, where I may change a
> series of `if`s to a `switch` with a `case` that contains a
> nested `switch`, or I may change a `switch` to an `if`; if the
> intent is to break out of an enclosing loop, labeled breaks are
> resilient to that, but counted breaks are not.

You're assuming that the count in indexed breaks includes switch 
statements. It shouldn't; that would be preposterous, and it all still 
comes down to the shared 'break' keyword.

How about fixing that first, or even admitting it was wrong, before

 >> Maybe the original set of loop performed some task T, and the new 
loop>> wants to repeat T, in which case it must stay inside.
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> Or maybe it is really has to quit ALL loops including any future outer
>> ones. Neither labeling or numbering solves this.
> 
> No.  If I want to break out of *all* loops, I just make sure
> that the outermost loop is labeled thusly.

But in my first example, that is not what you want! It all depends.

I don't like using multi-level loop exit, it's an untidy feature even 
though I implement it. And I don't like using labeled solutions, as they 
just turn them into thinly disguised gotos.

>> Labeled loops may also have a new problem with scoping: is the loop name
>> local to this nest of loops, or could an outer loop name especially
>> clash with other loop elsewhere?
> 
> Since labels are, you know, labels, they follow the semantics of
> ... labels.
Careful here: do you really mean that loop-labels will be in the same 
name-space as ordinary labels? That means:

* Getting clashes when a labeled loop is copied elsewhere within the 
function

* Being able to do an ordinary 'goto' to a loop-label ...

* ... which will also be confusing when loop labels are placed at the
   beginning of a loop rather than the end:

   L1:
   while () {
       goto L1:       This jumps to L1
       goto L2;       This jumps to L2
       continue L1;   This jumps to L2
       break L1;      This jumps to L3
   L2:
   }
   L3:

See there's a bit more to this language-design lark!


>> I've just done a survey in my major apps and haven't found an instance
>> where those latter two needed to cross two or more loops.
> 
> Anecdotal evidence, I'm afraid.

You're welcome to post your own surveys. Although unless the languages 
used in your survey support such features, you may find that hard.

> It's easy enough to look it up in the draft document; Keith
> posted a link.

Is that that 793-page document? Perhaps you can summarise how it works!

> 
>>> This illustrates one reason why changing a language can be hard:
>>> your idea sounds good at first blush, but it has its own
>>> deficiencies.
>>
>> I appreciate your concern. I've only been doing this (devising and
>> implementing systems languages) for 45 years!
> 
> That really doesn't mean anything.  Just doing something for a
> long time doesn't mean you're good at it: I have been shooting
> baskets for 45 years, but I will never be a point guard in the
> NBA.
And yet I've solved all the problems in this thread and many others.

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  Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-03 11:24 +0100
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    Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-03 17:36 +0100
      Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-03 16:31 -0700
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                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-07 11:39 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-07 12:57 +0200
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                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-07 10:28 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-07 15:16 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-07 16:40 +0200
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                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-10-06 16:08 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-06 23:45 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-10-06 17:08 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-07 10:35 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-06 12:33 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-06 17:16 +0200
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                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-07 13:52 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-10-07 14:06 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-07 23:31 +0100
      Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-10-05 21:32 +0000
        Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-06 06:07 +0800
        Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-05 16:42 -0700
          Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-05 18:05 -0700
            Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-06 09:04 +0200
              Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-06 04:11 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-06 21:40 +0200
            Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Andrey Tarasevich <noone@noone.net> - 2026-10-06 00:59 -0700
              Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:16 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-06 04:21 -0700
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            Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-06 17:36 +0200
      Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Andrey Tarasevich <noone@noone.net> - 2026-10-06 20:36 -0700
  Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 00:20 +0800
  Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Andrey Tarasevich <noone@noone.net> - 2026-10-04 09:05 -0700
    Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-04 23:44 +0000
      Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-05 01:46 +0100
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          Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-05 06:24 +0200
        Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-05 11:09 +0100
        Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-06 05:22 +0800
          Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-06 05:26 +0800
  Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-10 00:25 +0000
    Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-10 01:58 +0100
      Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-09 19:17 -0700
        Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-10 11:53 +0100
          Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-10 14:01 +0200
            Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-10 14:11 +0100
              Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-10 21:34 +0800
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-10 21:58 +0800
              Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-10 17:50 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-10-11 05:52 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:16 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-10-11 23:38 +0000
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                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-11 14:39 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 15:35 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-10-11 14:42 +0000
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                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-10-11 17:48 +0000
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                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-10-12 07:01 +0000
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              Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-10 20:08 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-10 22:02 +0300
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-10 19:03 +0000
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                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-10 21:55 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-10 23:03 +0300
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-10 22:33 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-10 21:53 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-10 23:16 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-10-11 15:29 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Andrey Tarasevich <noone@noone.net> - 2026-10-10 15:30 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-10 22:58 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:09 +0800
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-10-11 10:14 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:12 +0000
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                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-10 15:32 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-11 01:58 +0300
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-11 01:43 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:12 +0800
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-11 04:07 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-10 20:13 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-11 10:36 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-10-11 04:26 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-11 13:35 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-10-11 06:13 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-11 14:51 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-11 15:33 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Andrey Tarasevich <noone@noone.net> - 2026-10-11 09:01 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-11 19:17 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-11 18:57 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 14:28 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-11 23:02 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 16:29 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-10-12 04:03 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-12 22:02 +0300
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-12 21:09 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-12 22:31 +0300
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-12 22:32 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-12 22:05 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-12 23:14 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-10-13 07:23 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-13 12:12 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-13 11:26 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2026-10-13 12:10 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-10-13 06:55 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-13 13:33 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-13 13:41 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-13 14:38 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-13 18:04 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-13 20:52 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-13 22:24 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-14 00:03 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-14 10:53 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-14 17:54 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-14 19:48 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-13 11:16 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-13 21:54 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-10-13 07:40 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-13 16:46 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-10-13 09:10 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-13 18:15 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 18:27 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-14 01:50 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-14 10:58 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-13 22:54 +0300
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-10-13 16:45 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 18:34 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-10-14 05:17 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-14 13:46 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-12 07:05 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-12 14:37 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-12 16:12 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-12 16:32 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-12 19:05 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-12 19:15 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 16:43 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 16:45 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-12 23:46 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-13 00:56 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-12 17:58 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-12 20:38 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-10-12 19:52 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-12 22:56 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-12 21:57 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-10-12 21:21 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-12 22:46 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-13 09:27 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-13 12:18 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-13 11:33 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-13 00:25 +0300
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-12 22:20 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 17:02 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-13 01:53 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-13 03:54 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-13 10:52 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-13 23:16 +0300
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 18:44 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 17:33 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-14 00:21 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 20:40 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-14 03:59 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 21:35 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-14 11:27 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-14 12:17 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-14 12:38 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-14 16:49 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-14 19:30 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-14 23:28 +0300
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-14 21:56 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-14 21:59 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-14 18:51 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement "Peyton" <peyton@solacium.com> - 2026-10-14 11:04 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-14 19:47 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 13:58 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 14:23 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-10-14 14:35 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-10 16:38 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-10 21:09 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-10 23:14 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-10 23:01 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-10-11 08:00 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-11 10:27 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-11 10:49 +0200
          Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-10 16:30 -0700
            Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-11 02:12 +0100
              Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-10 19:55 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-11 11:00 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-11 12:21 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 14:04 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-11 23:05 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-12 07:22 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-12 11:42 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-12 16:15 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-10-12 14:34 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-12 16:47 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-13 00:15 +0800
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-10-12 17:02 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:04 +0800
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-10-13 17:28 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-14 02:05 +0800
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-10-12 17:17 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-12 17:37 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-12 17:34 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-10-12 18:46 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-12 19:52 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-10-12 19:42 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 16:29 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-13 00:53 +0100
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 18:14 -0700
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-10-12 22:35 +0000
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 16:14 -0700
              Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-11 22:36 +0100
        Re: Taming The Switch-Statement gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-10 13:14 +0000
        Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-10 19:50 +0300
          Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-10 20:13 +0200
            Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-10 15:54 -0700
              Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-11 03:41 +0200
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:51 +0800
                Re: Taming The Switch-Statement David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-10-11 11:41 +0200
          Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-10 16:44 -0700
        Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-10-10 16:56 -0700
    Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:26 +0000
      Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2026-10-11 22:12 +0000
    Re: Taming The Switch-Statement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-13 22:00 +0000
      Re: Taming The Switch-Statement bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-10-13 23:19 +0100

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