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Re: Adobe is panicking

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Adobe is panicking
Date 2026-10-13 16:38 -0400
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On Tue, 10/13/2026 1:49 PM, ....winston wrote:
> On 10/09/2026 9:46 PM, Paul wrote:
>> Should Adobe be scared ? I don't think so. The OCR worked after a fashion,
>> but it is really no better than some Tesseract adventure. It is about
>> as useful as OCRmypdf.
> 
> That's in agreement and similar sentiment from a cross-section of Enterprise and SMB admin testing (large and small volume of seats)
>  - Another reasonable comment is expenses associated with retraining including training time loss of productivity(i.e. not working on existing responsibilities, new troubleshooting tasking, etc.
> 

For some of them, they don't need training, because they haven't
even done the ribbon yet, and the menu is pretty barren. It won't
take long to fix that.

And while I was pessimistic a few days ago, that this effort could
finish, I discovered in a recent article, there *is* a way they could
do it.

You can take the existing executable code and reverse engineer it, turning it
into source code which is close enough to match 83% of the executable,
byte for byte. Then, by writing an architecture spec based on the
patterns in the reversed engineer effort, you can work in the
forward direction and pretend it was a "clean room" effort.
As the executable code should now be quite different.

Only the theft of non-public algorithms would be a giveaway .

The only thing wrong with that method, is it would take a couple
million dollars worth of tokens to do it. The people doing these
things, are using bulk-rate methods, instead of normal subscriptions.
There were some subscriptions that did not bill at the token level.
About the same as renting an Amazon instance.

   Paul

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Adobe is panicking MegaNZ <MegaNZ@newsgroups.com> - 2026-10-09 00:29 +0100
  Re: Adobe is panicking Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-09 01:59 -0400
    Re: Adobe is panicking Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-10-10 06:22 +0200
    Re: Adobe is panicking WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2026-10-11 10:13 -0400
  Re: Adobe is panicking "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-10-09 03:21 -0400
    Re: Adobe is panicking dillinger <dillinger@not.invalid> - 2026-10-09 20:02 +0200
      Re: Adobe is panicking "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-10-09 20:53 -0400
        Re: Adobe is panicking Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-09 21:46 -0400
          Re: Adobe is panicking "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 13:49 -0400
            Re: Adobe is panicking Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-13 16:38 -0400
              Re: Adobe is panicking "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 11:35 -0400
                Re: Adobe is panicking "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-10-15 20:50 +0000
                Re: Adobe is panicking "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 02:04 -0400
                [OT[: "24/7/365" (was: Re: Adobe is panicking) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-16 08:16 +0100
                Re: Adobe is panicking "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-10-16 07:42 +0000
            Re: Adobe is panicking Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-10-13 18:52 -0700
  Re: Adobe is panicking Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-10-11 19:21 +0100
    Re: Adobe is panicking Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-11 22:39 +0100
      Re: Adobe is panicking Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-12 00:00 -0400
      Re: Adobe is panicking Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-10-12 14:06 +0100
        Re: Adobe is panicking Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-12 18:24 -0400
          Re: Adobe is panicking Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-10-15 23:15 +0100
            Re: Adobe is panicking "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-10-16 07:53 +0000

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